i used to sort my directory links by PR but i see that in the phpld are some mistake to read the pr, so now i think to sort my links alphabetical, also because i think that is the most correct way and also because the pr always change... How do you sort?
Oh dear. This is really poor. After a long conversation with Bruce Swedal on the topic via IM, he went on to write an excellent article in his blog. You should all ready it - http://www.authoritydirectory.com/blog/directory-methods-for-ranking-links/ For the record, I sort my links by hits. I think thats the best.
You need to mind your own business please, i appreciate long debate and conversation here, but know when to stop, thanks. Il run my business my way, less of the oh dear with me.
Its a public forum. If you don't want to have people give your opinion on something that needs to be commented on, such as PR, then don't bother posting. If you continued to read the rest of my post and went on to read the sound advice on Bruces' blog then you'd realise I was trying to help people like yourself out.
I have no desire to be told how to run my business, i dont think anyone does, its a simple question from the OP "how do you sort yours" not personal digs of your doing it wrong. I dont tell you how to run your directories. I dont want your help, im a big boy, i simply answered the OP's question. Dont flatter yourself into believing you can advise me.
I wiil leave in a directory an alphabetical sorting and in other a hits sorting, i want exclude by PR , after that i will choose wich is the best, thank you
When I upgraded Lobo, I totally ace'd that PR sort, just useless to me. I decided to go hits and I doubt it will ever change.
Mikey was only giving friendly advice. He knows fine well what happens with directories that glamourise pagerank - and so do you, judging by how you've promoted your own directories around here since Google took a proper stand (ie. completely non-existent promotion) against it. Sorting by PageRank will only further cause issues with Google, they don't like people exploiting what's theirs to give - which is exactly what sorting by pagerank does. Mikey, nor I, criticised you personally - but the option you chose to take, which in my, and many others' opinion, is not the way to go with directories. History and modern studies lesson over That is the stance everybody should take - or at least some variation of it, good work frustik.
I personally think hits is about the best way to go - it allows your visitors to determine which sites they think are best and should be listed first. One thing you may want to do if you decide to go with hits as there are some potential abuses to that system. Limit the number of hits that can come from individual ip's by day. And something that you may want to do if you have a top hits page ragrdless of your sorting method - point all links from the top hits page internal to the details pages. I like to provide that top hits page for visitors. But some will try to game that top hits page for an additional strong link to their site. At least by pointing the link internal there you remove the benefits of those that would seek to game the system. I have removed all reference to page rank a long time ago.
You too need to mind your own business a bit, you step over that invisible line of advice and forgetting yourself. Mikey cant promote a directory without getting it penalised, he is hardly in a position to advise me. You can barely get through half a week without using profanities here and attacking people randomly, therefore you too are in no position to offer me advice. Dont tell me what i know. I know what i know and that i wont take advice from an over active individual like you. I cant move in this section of the forum without you nut cases trying to control everything.
John, I won't bother giving any advice to you, you're obviously not worth it. As for me making profanities everywhere, as you claim, you may need to skip the History class next week and toodle along to English lessons instead, because you clearly don't know what a profanity is. Thanks anyway.
Why do you think your in a position to advise me? your not being realistic. See this keeps repeating itself week after week, i simply answered a thread with a few words, said nothing more than that and suddenly i have mo and jo telling me how i should do business. Its like being stalked online, Mike and whatever your called, superhero? i currently have no girlfriend but im not looking for a boyfriend either so please search some other place. Please dont hound me around the forums, it feels weird and uncomfortable. Do take out of your head what master plan you have of causing chaos here as its not healthy. Can you not just let people use a forum without getting so uptight? do you eat lots of smarties or something? lol I dont know who put the belief in your head that your in a position to advise people. I know you try and bait me hoping il get tired enough to not come to the forum so its one less person in your way of the master plan but really thats getting out of hand. You should let go of all of that hatred inside of you as its not good for your own health, seriously. Do your employers know that you carry on this way? what would they think of your attitude towards others. Just a suggestion, maybe dont patronise people? what do you think? a reasonable suggestion. See this regular mention of calling people kids, kiddies etc, some of you are younger than the people your calling kiddies, lets not get into age and all that. Can you actually have a calm discussion with me in a thread? i invite you to discuss openly in any thread without your suggestions of advice. I bet you could do it if you tried, i know theres a good person inside of you but its the sugar isn't it it sends you hyper and you need to let it all out so you do it on dp. Ok, check this out, lol, regardless of what you say or do or try and advise, people are just going to do as they please, regardless. Now you can empty out all of this section of any members and be left with a stream of newcomers to "educate" and if thats your desire then carry on but if you sat back just for a moment and stopped, you would see how much time you are wasting. You lack professionalism and self control and understanding of other peoples lives, you dont yet have a realistic grasp on the chaotic unpredictable world that we live in, and especially regarding business. You are trying to do something and end up doing nothing thats good for you. Now see how i can finish this post without using a swear word, without being out of control and simply suggesting what may actually be doing you more damage. Now be kind enough to leave me in peace to have my own directory setup as i want to, il do things my way, you do things your way, we will both make mistakes along the way, thats just how it goes, same to mikey, deal with your own first, when you can successfully promote something without being penalised in the first few months then maybe consider offering advice that you think may help others, until then, practice a little modesty. Adopt an "always learning" approach, instead of an "im going to kick your *** approach. Nobody here is in a position to pick points at how i run my directory.
What the *&^$**&$ are you people smoking? Please keep it away from me. What should have been a simple conversation has turned into yet another battle. Damn people, knock it off already. As to the original question... I agree that doing anything on a directory that focuses on PR can be a bad idea and even an invitation by Google to get penalized. There's also the added maintenance requirements of keeping those PR scores current. Not to mention anything that automatically queries Google for PR is against Google's TOS. I sort by date submitted (in ascending order) - early submitters, those who came to my site when it was unknown or submitted to a new category without PR or indexing, are rewarded. IMHO, sorting by date in descending, penalizes those site owners who submitted when the directory offered the least value and rewards the ones who waited until the directory was proven - seems a bit of backwards logic to me. I have gotten my sites firmly into the first position on a number of 'ordered by hits' sites with only 1 click - seems like a poor choice.
What the fuck? Thats not overstepping the line is it....If you want a slagging match thats fine. I will beat you too easily, so don't bother. Zorg Links was penalised like many other directories, including yours. At least I actually promoted it, unlike yours which look like they belong in a ghost town... Zorg Directory was promoted excellently. It had all pages indexed, top SERPs, decent traffic and decent 3rd part stats such as 80k alexa and PR5. As for Fruity, that was just an experiment. I was pushing the boat too much and deserved to be penalised. Perhaps we can have this discussion at the end of the year when things are sorted.
Considering i gave a simple short answer to begin with. What makes it turn sour is its a personal thing, im hounded through the place by a handful of lunatics. Kevin Green, call your dogs off please, your seriously beginning to annoy me now.
Mike you need to back off and grow up, if i remove anything to do with phpld from my sigs and posts will that result in peace or is this going to continue regardless? Leave me the hell alone to use the forum as a normal member, im tired of this nonsense, its completely out of control.
www.zorg-directory.com www.wicked-directory.com www.fruitydirectory.com Those are just 3 directories that I own, or have previously owned of around 30. Guess what!? They all used phpLinkDirectory, other than the bid directories which obviously don't count. You assume I don't like you because you use phpLD? You are wrong, its a great script, hence the reasons for me using it myself. Ding ding.