Emergency Official Witnessed Dead Bodies In WTC 7

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  1. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Mia are you saying that some debris that might have hit the 7th building caused it to implode like it did?
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #22
    It did not implode. It collapsed, just like other buildings did. Just like the Twin Towers did. I'm not a structural engineer, but it does not take one to realize that when a buildings core structural integrity is breached by a combination of external and internal damage cause by both debris, fire and the collapse of two larger structures - that that building will likely collapse as well.

    Do keep in mind that the foundation as well was damaged as the result of the larger towers falling.

    I cannot believe there are people that still think this was an inside job.

    You know what this reminds me of? Year ago there was a short lived TV program called "The Hit Squad", I think.

    They would pull these on air pranks on people. One of which was a recording of a couple guys at Old Faithful at Yellowstone National Park. They video taped themselves and park service workers as well as tourist as they turned a water a fake water spicket at the exact moment Old Faithful was to erupt. The look on peoples faces.

    If you played that enough people would actually start to believe that Old Faithful was turned on by a couple of guys.

    It's kinda scary how stupid some people sound when they try to tout this BS. Its gone from funny, to retarded.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #23
    It is scary :rolleyes:
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #24
    Does anyone know what the mathematical probability of all 3 buildings collapsing into their footprint are? I imagine the odds are very low.

    Richard (?) Gage of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 has a brief part in Truth Rising, and talks about how if it was fire that weakened the structure, the building would have tipped, because fire moves and wouldn't create consistent heat within an entire floor or set of floors.

    It's like they say. If you apply basic common sense and the laws of physics to 9/11, the collapse of all 3 towers into their footprint is not only unlikely, it might be impossible based on the "official story".
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #25
    Randy Johnson hitting a bird with a pitch is about 1 in 19,000,000,000. But it happened.

    Only time in the history of baseball, but it did happen.

    Being involved in tower construction, salvage, repair, etc... of all the tall structures I have seen, they NEVER fall ruler straight. NEVER.. Not to say it cannot happen, it just does not. In fact, most fall at 50% or less their original foot print. If they did not, the buildings in NYC would never meet setback requirements.

    Actually if you apply physics, common sense and the nature with which the buildings were intentionally built, its not only likely, it did happen that way.

    I would gather if you tested the attacks in a model and controlled environment, the same collapse scenario would likely happen again and again and again.

    In reality part of these buildings did topple over at certain points. But nothing fell ruler straight. Of all the collapses I have seen, from controlled collapse to those taken down by weather or some other natural disaster, I've never seen a ruler straight fall.

    I cannot comment on the WTC specifically, but I will tell you that in every community that we have approached about building structures from 200' to 800' or more, we've had to have an engineer design the structures to fail at 50% of the fall radius/setback.

    I'd be willing to be that the WTC was designed to meet those requirements as well. Good thing. Imagine if they just toppled over from the base? That would have made more of a mess.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #26
    You just need to look at Mia's posts to know that half of his family died in 9/11 and half of his family were there to report back to him first hand what happened. :rolleyes:
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #27
    You my friend are a sick person.
     
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    #28
    IIRC, NIST hired a specialist in public infrastructure to do a study. It was some guy from a California University.

    Originally, he backed up the "official story", then when his modeling was complete, he said the "original story" didn't jive. He's been ostracized in the engineering community, although no one will confront him on his work, just personal attacks, kinda like how our mutual pal stalks us.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #29
    Yeah, watching it live on TV so few years ago, it just did not jive either... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    #30
    You're the one who brought up modeling. Make up my mind already!
     
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    #31
    Guys,

    Im not an engineer, im not muslam, im not american, and i dont care if you guys break stone with your hands.

    But i've been seeing so much people telling this looks an inside job... not my neighbour, but ex German Ministers, US senators ?!?! (the chinese/korean guy, dont know the name...), demolitions experts from all the world, engineers etc etc

    I dont know... there were too many things that didnt go right that day.

    I truly believe the story will tell us the truth about this event, and i also believe that some fellows did let happen 9/11. Who are they, i dont care, but i realize US citizens are in deep trouble with that government.

    Money is missing everywhere, War lords say and monkey government do... its a shame actually.

    Dont forget that all our discussions can end in here, but our kids future is in dangerous hands right now.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #32
    And for every goofy conspiracy theorist out there, there are just as many legitimate scientists and engineers with differing opinions.

    But hey, Elvis is still alive, Hitler's brain is alive in jar, and there was a gunman on the grassy knoll.
    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    #33
    Don't forget how many people are out there that buy everything they are told. I have heard them referred to as SHEEPLE.
     
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    #34
    A lot of the people believing the conspiracy theories were never in the towers. The World Trade Towers were not that strong. The skin was basically made out of glass. The structural support was on the frame instead of columns to increase space. The Empire State building is a lot stronger. A B-25 fly in to it back in 1945 and it's still standing.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #35
    Or moonbats..



    Exactly. Want to do a good model test to see what bogart is talking about. Get two square pieces of wood say, 6" x 6" x 3/4". Then get 4 1/8" dowels about 2 feet long. Drill four holes in each square piece at the corners. Insert the dowels into the wood square such that each end is connected. Picture this as the structural support of the Twin Towers. If you had supports running in between each dowel all the way up the tower that would represent the outer skin and glass which was the structural support of the building. To see what I mean, begin placing books in top of your mini Trade Center model. Keep stacking and watch what happens.
     
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    #36
    No, I just know when someone is full of it. :rolleyes:
     
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    #37
    I was on the other side of the river when the towers went down. All I could see was smoke and dust. I knew some people that where in there when the planes hit. They where on the 44th floor and got out. But were black with dust. I was actually working over there a couple of months before the attacks working on a project. Comparing Mia's model to the actual site, building and plans, the model makes sense.
     
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    #38
    I can believe that you saw it but Mia is full of it with his claims. If you add up the number of family members that people claim that have lost in 9/11 or were there, you have to accept that 3000,000 people died instead of 3,000. :rolleyes:
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #39

    It's because reality trumps stupidity.




    Who's claiming they lost family members. All my family made it out. My cousin who drives the trains was underground for 4 hours. He was called by NYC Transit and told to stop his train, just shortly before his WTC stop.

    Like I said before. You are a sick person. Have you no value for human life at all? No compassion? What's wrong with you?
     
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    #40
    I wonder how many people making the claims were there on 9/11?
     
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