Need some good SEO people

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Italkcash, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #21
    backlinks are not everything

    and Page rank is now a myth


    I have a PR 2 site in number one and top 5 and top 10 for competitive keyphrases less than 80 links

    beating out PR 6 and 7 sites with 20k+ backlinks

    soooooo many myths......
     
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  2. Kenpachi_Bankai

    Kenpachi_Bankai Banned

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    #22
    Im a good SEO person, I run a site www.mahanseoservices.com with my team. Let me know if you still need SEO people. :)
     
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  3. KingPin08

    KingPin08 Banned

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    #23
    Exactly!! as I said, $6k MINIMUM.

    Wrong, SEO is NOT unreliable if the person who has the project knows what they are doing.

    Nothing is guaranteed these days, not in the world of SEO/SEM, link building, offline marketing, nothing.

    Well, all I can say is good luck in finding that person who will do what you require because I for one certainly wouldn't do work then expect payment at the end of it unless everything is transfered into my name for reassurance.

    KP
     
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  4. scubita

    scubita Peon

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    #24
    Well, i decided to test drive some of my sites and here's the deal:

    G #2 - competition: 1.250.000
    G #3 - competition: 995.000
    G #1 - competition: 1.470.000

    and for the end:

    G #2 - competition: 8.000.000

    So, i'm not a SEO, at least a Professional Seo, but i do know my way around. And yet, i'll never do a SEO job because to do that for you guys, i have to drop my sites into a corner and/or work 19 hours a day.

    So you see, just 2-3 years ago, i didn't had a clue about seo, linkbuilding, w3c, keywords, long term strategy, competition, etc etc

    If a dumbass like me can do it, i guess you can too.

    Good luck and god speed :)
     
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  5. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #25
    lol...did he just call the OP a dumbass??:eek:
     
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    #26
    Well i think $6000 per month for SEO if a stinking ripoff, sorry just aint worth it, learn how to do it yourself, get somebody to optimize you site and pages have good unique content, and start getting loads of links and submitting articles, sorry no offense seo guys , but i cant see the $6000 per month, you will never convince me otherwise.
     
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  7. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #27
    can you show us websites of your own that are in page one lisitngs of google for 1-3 COMPETITIVE keywords?

    and remember, although YOU may have time to do all that work...

    Most people looking for TOP keywords, are too busy running their businesses than trying to do every bit of marketing for themselves.

    its like saying I would never pay someone $100 bucks to change my oil...sure you CAN do it on your own...but why?

    Top level SEO is NOT for the guy with an adsense template site

    it is for people with real products and services who want to generate organic traffic without "paying PER click"

    so if it doesnt fit you, it is because its not FOR you. The people it is for know that 6k for page one results is CHEAP compared to paying 10-50k in PPC for the same level of listings ;)
     
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    califmike2003 Peon

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    #28
    I didnt say 6k for first page on google, i would pay someone 6 k for first page on google if they promised it, I SAID, 6k per MONTH is outrageous to pay. Your right most people dont have the time to do there own site, i dont have time, but im paying somebody to do it, and im working on it also, when i have time, and i promise you im not paying anywhere near 6k per month, thats all im saying.
     
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  9. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #29

    yah your right for just some SEO 6k is a bit high!

    but this guy wants first page for a SINGLE keyword..."cash" at that!:eek:

    actually that keyword will probably take several months to get first page....especially hard to do white hat (which is all i do)
     
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  10. Italkcash

    Italkcash Peon

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    #30
    The url contains the word cash, (www.italkcash.com) so does title, description and meta tags, it really should not be THAT hard. Anyway, if anyone can work with escrow I am able to pay like that. I will put whatever cash you need in escrow.

    So who is up for www.italkcash.com to make it page 1 on google, yahoo and msn for the word, "CASH"
     
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  11. BusinessCoach

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    #31
    $1000 deposit plus $100,000 placed at www.escrow.com, to be released the SECOND you achieve top 20
     
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  12. Italkcash

    Italkcash Peon

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    #32
    LOL, the word cash is not THAT much of a value. For 100k I can buy advertisement in TV for months on CNBC, I am pretty sure that kind of traffic is far better.
     
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  13. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #33
    actually you wont get MONTHS on cnbs, but you can do a small campaign, unless you mean the website and not the broadcast station

    either way it wont however get you to page one in google, which will keep bringing traffic long after a commercial is gone...and of course its TARGETED to people who specifically typed your word in, and not the latest britney spears new report ;)

    the other alternative is to follow industry standard practice and just pay 6k in advance
     
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  14. SuPrAiCeR69

    SuPrAiCeR69 Peon

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    #34
    I do SEO for a large corporation who in turn, earns over $10m per month.
    50% of the Fortune 500 companies are their clients.

    I do my work on the above site, together with ssandecki on DP and he is the SEO King, I suggest you have a chat to him or myself about an SEO plan, either one of us would be able to work on the site for you.

    Just because the url, title, description and meta tags have the keyword "cash" in it, makes no difference to how hard or easy the job would be. What makes a difference is what your competitors are doing - How many high quality backlinks, are they purchasing text links and should they be reported, their priority status...etc etc

    You are currently not ranked in the top 1000 results for the keyword "cash" and you have some competitive sites in the top positions such as wikipedia and yahoo, although not direct competitors to your site.

    Top 10 in Google for "cash"
    1 : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash 
    2 : finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CASH 
    3 : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_flow 
    4 : digicash.com
    5 : flalottery.com/inet/games-cash3Main.do 
    6 : johnnycash.com 
    7 : checkintocash.com 
    8 : thinkcash.com
    9 : investopedia.com/terms/c/cashflow.asp
    10 : finance.yahoo.com/q/cf?s=GOOG&annual 
    Code (markup):
    You may contact myself or ssandecki via PM for a price request.
     
    SuPrAiCeR69, Jul 8, 2008 IP
  15. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #35
    superai

    you are the first person in a long time I have seen who really knows what they are talking about :)
     
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  16. SuPrAiCeR69

    SuPrAiCeR69 Peon

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    #36
    Thanks BusinessCoach, alot of my knowledge, if not all, has been because of working on my clients sites with Steven.

    I don't understand why anyone would want to rank for the term "cash" it's such a broad term, better off targeting a longer tail keyword like "make cash online", etc. (again what you would pay an SEO for is keyword research, know what you are targeting, which will bring you more traffic, which are more monetary and so forth)

    But I guess this is what he WANTS :)

    You're 100% right though, it will take him several months to reach first page using only white hat techniques. However, he has to understand, you get what you pay for - Pay someone $1000, they'll shoot off $50 out of it to someone else for directory submissions, a few blog comments and any other low quality backlinks they can pay someone else to do, and then pocket the remaining $950...

    the outcome; little or no critical on-page seo repaired, low quality backlinks, little or no SEM, the list can go on, but mainly - NO top 10 position in Google, Yahoo and MSN.
     
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  17. BusinessCoach

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    #37
    There are over 100 things google looks at that DIRECTLY affects your search rank...only about 30 are ON THE PAGE

    Meta Tags KEYWORDS -- died in 2001...useless (except to let google know your a spammer!)


    Google is also intelligent -Google looks at when the domain was registered and WHEN IT EXPIRES, it looks at content on your page, how old it is, how relavant it is, even which parts of the page has ads

    supraice mentioned SEM...which is definitely different the SEO or even what I call SES (search engine saturation) which is much better in the end
     
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    #38
    see ur PM for SEO interview
     
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  19. BusinessCoach

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    #39
    thanks seoservices...but i am not the one looking for seo work :p ...the OP is! PM HIM your interview!
     
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  20. Italkcash

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    #40
    Ok SuPrAiCeR69 you cought my attention, I will PM you and we can talk on some peer 2 peer networks in the future.
    Btw, did you work together with BusinessCoach?
     
    Italkcash, Jul 16, 2008 IP