Why waste your time with DMOZ?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by Precise, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. #1
    My father's business site has been around for 10 years(on the net), it is listed in DMOZ and Music Moz... I looked through his pronic cpanel and could not tally up double digit referrals in any month... His pagerank is only 3 as well.

    I see so many topics concerned about getting listed in DMOZ, is it really worth it?
     
    Precise, Jul 7, 2008 IP
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    Spider-Man Banned

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    #2
    Nice to see your feet strongly on the ground - Dmoz never will send you enough traffic to justify losing sleep over being listed - somehow it's very difficult to portray that to new website owners. In fact, very few paid directories are actually worth paying to be listed - especially if you are looking for traffic. The vast majority of directory listings are only good for gaining SERP results and nothing more in my opinion.
     
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  3. Precise

    Precise Peon

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    Oh, that leads me to point out one more thing. My father's site was down for 72 hours about 4 months ago. Prior to that it had the #1 spot in its search term. After that, it has been #2 since, to a site that is only 1pr higher and is not listed in DMOZ.

    Just pointing that out. =)
     
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    cchetanonline Banned

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    Actually DMOZ listing is one of the important fact for Pagerank and yes, the quality of site.
    DMOZ will list you only if u have quality (atleast for newer sites)

    so, people try to get listed at DMOZ, and one more thing, DMOZ allow us to use there database for our new directory, so getting listed in DMOZ may give you few more backlinks from different directories. and hence increase PR and Backlinks too.

    DMOZ data is used my many sites to maintains there database (e.g. Alexa) so it is one of the important fact.

    satisfied / agree now ?
     
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    Chetan, no disrespect, I'm actually quite disturbed that you actually believe what you just posted. The Dmoz dumps are utterly useless and only provide duplicate directories which give absolutely no benefit whatsoever. As for Dmoz giving a site PageRank - it's quite embarrassing that you've just given out such advice. Quality of a site? There are thousands of 'quality' sites that gain thousands of unique daily visitors that aren't listed in Dmoz - how did they manage it?:rolleyes:
     
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  6. Precise

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    Still unsatisfied. For the amount of concern some people have for DMOZ, I am still confused. PR3 from Dmoz (well that includes 100s of other backlinks as well). Just does not seem like it's not worth more than to submit your site and forget about it.
     
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    #7
    Dmoz is far from essential, but it's worth trying to get onto. However if you don't get on the first time, don;t bother wasting your time with it. Most quality sites are not on DMoz and perform just fine.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #8
    It IS worth the time to submit and forget!

    Past that there is no real proof that it is all that helpful beyond some random person clicking through now and again. For most categories trying to get listed is not worth the effort beyond simply submitting your site and moving on to the next directory.
     
    Qryztufre, Jul 8, 2008 IP
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    I agree with this! I always submit when I have time but do not fret. I had one of my blogs listed, delisted, than relisted in a span of three months.

    It only really seems to help if you sell links or you sell a site. Webmaster seem to think that a site listed in DMOZ is worth more. Otherwise, I have seen no benefit beyond a listing in any other directory. I will update on my blog if I see a huge PR jump from it but I am doubting that. So far they are not even showing up as a link in my webmaster tools on Google.
     
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    #10
    Yes DMOZ is definitely not what it used to be a couple of years ago, however since a listing more helps than hurt, it is still worth it to submit your site to it.

    I usually submit new sites and clients sites to dmoz and forget about it :)
     
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    For a free directory, it's great for SERPS.

    Look at it this way, not only do you get a decent listing on a popular directory, you also get featured on a number of directories.

    If you have quality content (something that - from speaking to two people I know - most of the sites don't), then there's no danger of being refused. Also, if you acutally list quality businesses, you do get fast tracked.
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    There is some evidence to suggest that duplicate content filters make anything but DMOZ itself pretty worthless.

    It's actually better to submit to several directories with varies anchor text and descriptions (and if more people did that it would help even more) as the slight changes trump the duplicate content penalties seen on MANY directories (as they are either cloned, or submitters put in the same info in each and every one of them).
     
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    100% agree. Pull alexa backlinks or alltheweb for any given site. Then start to follow the links. You will be shocked how many use the DMOZ database to generate a link for you. One of my competitors only has 400 backlinks, yet ranks 1-3 for a lot of the keywords I use (competitive ones). He easily has 50 backlinks that all originate from DMOZ.
     
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    I've wondered if it was really worth it to be listed in DMOZ - good info - Thanks to everyone posting
     
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    Well, something would depend on how many visitors in total your Dad gets -- 9 a month could be a sizable proportion of the human (not bot) visitors; and something else would depend on the average spend of those visitors. If 9 DMOZ visitors are accounting for 10% of your profit, that would be of interest.

    On another hand, look at it the other way. DMOZ has 4.5 million listings. If each of them gets only 10 visits a month from DMOZ users, that is still 1.5 million referrals a day from DMOZ.

    That may be small beer for any of the 4.5 million sites listed. But it shows that DMOZ serves a large audience. Claims that DMOZ is irrelevant seldom take those 1.5 million (in reality, much higher) daily users in to account.
     
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    #16
    Keep wondering, the debate seems to meet someplace in the middle, as for each good point, there is a seemingly equal bad point. However, like every directory, it IS worth the time to submit... but that is about the only time needed to spend on the directory.

    Submit & forget!

    If you get listed, it's better then not getting listed, but that is about the only real bonus.
     
    Qryztufre, Jul 20, 2008 IP
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    DMOZ is a waste of time. I first submitted 2 years ago and still no sign of a listing.
    I'm convinced it doesn't matter. DMOZ gets such bad press just now you have to ask whether you want a listing there anyway. My traffic is building slowly but happily without it - like many others I suspect.
     
    peejaydee, Jul 22, 2008 IP
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    #18
    If you are trying to rank for a highly competitive keyword, you need to be in DMOZ ;)
     
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    #19
    Assuming your keyword is your site name :rolleyes:

    If you are talking about description, then heh, that is just spiderfood for DMOZ itself.
     
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    10 years and only a pagerank 3? Sounds like a dead site, even if it has been online the entire time. Dmoz can't help you there. Dmoz will only help you be listed on googles dir... which still won't help you. Dmoz isn't a traffic generator, it's just a vote.
     
    26global, Jul 22, 2008 IP