Aljazeera Focus : Israel 'committing memorycide'

if you have money and power you get to write history and forget the truth...

 

I am going to go a little off topic here to ask you a question.
It seems that you know what is anti-Zionist and i am sure you know what is anti semitism.
what is the difference? There seems to be a lot of people in the forum that want to be anti zionist but not anti semitic. Is there a way that they can differentiate between the two and can be one without the other.
and what is wrong with one state of palestanian and israelis living together?

 

Did Jews came to Palestine with flowers and olive branches? No. They used terrorism to establish Israel and now they harvest what they seeded long time ago. When "the world" stop using double standards and take some action against Israel because they occupied someone's else land than it would be sing to Palestinians to stop armed struggle for their freedom. Until then I don't see any other way for them 'cept using same methods Jews used. An eye for eye, tooth for a tooth.

 

Can someone explain the below picture if Israel didn't use the voilence how did they get all the land?

 

Hey, if you want to see the Palestinians in the same situation for the next 100 years, that sounds like a great plan.

I actually want to see them have a peaceful independent state in the West Bank and Gaza - obviously you just want to see revenge and attacks. If the Palestinians keep following your plan they will never have a state. One would think, at some point, someone on the Palestinian side was bright enough to see that.

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The pictures are not accurate, so there is nothing about them to explain.

The idea that there was a nation called Palestine in that entire area in 1946, the basis for the map, is simply false.

Where does that map show the areas that were occupied by Jordan and Egypt? Lastly, perhaps if you consider the many times the Arab nations have attacked Israel and lost, you might better understand the reality on the ground.

 

It's a great plan because Israel will be in same situation like it is now: no peace as long as it's occupies other peoples land. Period.

Your problem is that you eat up zionists lies and one of biggest is: if only Palestinians would stop with armed fighting we would return land we occupied! Is that why they brought in 250,000 settlers in West Bank from which most of them are extreme right religious freaks? Is that why they confiscated so much of Palestinian land in West Bank? Because they were ready to return that land right away to Palestinians? Use some common sense man! They wouldn't do all things they done if their intention was to return that land to Palestinians. Without armed fight from Palestinian side zionist would never return that land.

The picture is more than accurate but it doesn't fit into your AIPAC created reality so you refuse to accept it.

Sure, they were all martians there.

Right there at pic no 3.

So that's your explanation and excuse for zionist occupation of Palestine? We were attacked so we ethnically cleansed whole area to make lebensraum for our fellow Jews around the world?
I said it many times before and I will repeat many times in future: we just need to look at the map of Israel provided by World Zionist Organisation in 1919. in Paris and anyone should understand who started all wars in ME and why did of all occupied territories Israel willingly returned only Sinai.

 

Sadly, I believe you think that is a great plan.

Israel will still be thriving it 100 years. It would be very sad if the Palestinians were still living in stateless squalor. But with people like you who would rather cheer a fight than encourage compromise and have peace, I fear for the Palestinian people. Why is it always outsiders who seem content to let the Palestinians live in squalor so long as they are fighting Israel?

 

Sadly, people like you believe that Israel would give up on territories peacefully. Without Palestinian fighting for last 40+ years they wouldn't return single inch and they showed that by bringing in settlers and building up settlements. Of course, somehow you missed to comment those settlers and settlements.

And yes, as long as Israel is not ready to return occupied territories I will support Palestinians fighting. It's sad thing that people like you believe in zionists lies how they would return land to Palestinians only if Palestinians stop fighting for that same land! Completely nonsene! You must be naive like a little child to believe in such thing. They had plenty of chances in 40 years of fighting to do that but they didn't. Instead of that they continued with ethnic cleansing, stealing land and bringing in new settlers.

Check out reality sometimes: List of United Nations resolutions concerning Israel

I would like to see any kind of evidence that in last 40 years Israel was ready to return occupied territories to Palestinians so that they have full independent sovereign state. Until then keep believing in AIPAC crap. Some day perhaps your son will have chance to die in some desert in ME for AIPACs cause. They sure do love you because of that.

 

Yeah yeah, really nice pictures and all, but maybe you can also add some nice stories about the Independence War, 6-Day War just to mention a few. Then maybe you will understand why this is.

Just look it up at Wikipedia.

 

Why not start with ethnic cleansing of Palestine? Ah yes! You call it Independence war!
How about zionists terrorism? How about them blowing up brits while they were fighting against nazis? Maybe you will understand what was that all about.

Just look iz up at Wikipedia.

I love when people are so damn selective on history and wanna show only parts that suits their goals but those parts that doesn't look good for their cause wanna simply erase from history...

 

From wikipedia, the Independence war:

Five of the seven countries of the Arab League at that time, namely Egypt, Iraq, Transjordan, Lebanon and Syria, backed with Saudi Arabian and Yemenite contingents invaded the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine on the night of 14–15 May 1948. The official motives for their intervention were set out in a statement of 15 May 1948.

The British mandate over Palestine was due to expire on 15 May, but Jewish Leadership led by future Prime Minister, David Ben-Gurion, declared independence on 14 May. The State of Israel declared itself as an independent nation, and was quickly recognized by the Soviet Union, the United States, and many other countries.

Over the next few days, approximately 1,000 Lebanese, 5,000 Syrian, 5,000 Iraqi, and 10,000 Egyptian troops invaded the newly-established state.

Result:
Decisive Israeli victory
Tactical and strategic Arab failure

Where do you see ethnic cleaning? I only see that five arab countries wanted to do so...

iggysick love wars... blood is an adrenaline rush for him...

 

you have to be joking?

 

Because of the way you think you will hardly ever have peace. It has nothing to do with some loves or doesn't love wars. Keep telling fairy tales. Everyone with common sense can see what it is all about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel

On todays Israel territory there was as much as twice Arabs than Jews so how could Jews make Jewish state with Arab majority? They found simple solution: 1948 Palestinian exodus