About blackhat...

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by megaxx, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hello. I just wanted to ask if blackhat is legal and what are the risks of selling an ebook with it or using blackhat methods.

    I think this is the right section.

    Best Regards
     
    megaxx, Jun 25, 2008 IP
  2. MelogKnaj

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    If the blackhat method is illegal under your state/federal law then you have an issue. If it just breaks the TOS of a site all the site can do is ban you, there are no other legal repercussions.
     
    MelogKnaj, Jun 25, 2008 IP
  3. schizo

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    That's why its called blackhat....its totally illegal.

    Laws may vary form country to country, but I do not know of any that have legalized it.
     
    schizo, Jun 25, 2008 IP
  4. Tanpa Nama

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    yes...I agree too.

    this because the blackhat methods are very powerful..not like other.
    That why Google also hate the blackhat!
     
    Tanpa Nama, Jun 25, 2008 IP
  5. puremonopoly

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    I fully disagree with you in every possible way. Blackhat isn't illegal. Certain, maybe most of blackhat's methods are in the rhelm of illegal. However, to group the entire blackhat persona into an illegal status would be a blunt misrepresentation of blackhat. Sometimes blackhat is more legal than whitehat. It all depends on the context and the deployment..

    Example of a blackhat with questionably illegal tactics and ethically irresponsible:
    Bank of America

    Example of an ethically responsible blackhat:
    [idk one right now ^_^ ...however, I know they're out there 0_o]
     
    puremonopoly, Jun 25, 2008 IP
  6. megaxx

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    OK, thank you for the answers.
     
    megaxx, Jun 26, 2008 IP
  7. sanaa-s-1971

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    i consider myself that blackhats are illegal but selling an ebook that is instructional about blackhat i dont think it is..
     
    sanaa-s-1971, Jun 28, 2008 IP
  8. Cobrabid

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    PUREMONEPOLY, you have it spot on there, good post!
     
    Cobrabid, Jun 29, 2008 IP
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    Blackhat is not illegal! You need ot make the difference between blackhat and fraud! Fraud is illegal not blackhat.
     
    fafala77, Jun 29, 2008 IP
  10. schizo

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    Fully disagree in every possible way....
    Something cannot be more legal then another either.
    Blackhat is illegal in the sense that they attack networks.
    The person asking did not mention security testing, so I thought he was talking about hacking, and what he had in mind was illegal.

    Sorry for not being clear and I'll remeber what you said.
     
    schizo, Jun 30, 2008 IP
  11. Ulquiorra

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    You lost me with that first line...
     
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  12. MarketExpert

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    Fully disagree in every possible way.... The poster did not mention any specific blackhat meathod. Blackhat cannot be defined as it has several different levels and applications. I am quite sure the poster was asking about blackhat SEO (search engine optimization) which is not illegal. Most blackhat seo meathods are shortlived and not good for serious businesses.
     
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  13. schizo

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    Can you pm me about blackhat SEO?

    Im sorry i want aware of it.
     
    schizo, Jul 1, 2008 IP
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    A simple google search will yield what you are looking for. Most blackhatters never get caught. But if you are unlikely enough to get caught spamming or whatever method you are using, you could be slapped with a nice fine and probably jail time.
     
    bradrx7, Jul 1, 2008 IP
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    what I was going to say. Its like saying is doing things on the internet illegal? Very vague. CERTAIn things can be, but not all. And a lot of blackhat is NOT illegal in the sense you will go to jail. Most of it is just 'unethical' and usually the most that can happen is google de-index your site, or your ISP shuts down your internet.


    Jail time is unlikely. I guess it depends what you do, but if it is jail time it is probably more along the lines of pure spam and such, and not blackhat.
     
    TheSA, Jul 2, 2008 IP
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    Blackhat is legal, just deceptive to anyone you work with.
     
    ryan444123, Jul 2, 2008 IP
  17. Christian Little

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    Not every form of blackhat is illegal. Just the spam part is.

    Using pagerank hijacking, google bowling, and all the other fun tricks isn't illegal - but it's really stupid to try and very unethical.
     
    Christian Little, Jul 2, 2008 IP
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    Blackhat is more of a style than a system.

    It doesn't mean illegal, it means unethical.
     
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    #19
    Spot on!
    Most blackhat methods would definately be described as unethical but not illegal.
    They may break the terms and conditions of g@@gle or other search engines/sites etc. but they are not illegal as in the police will be after you.
     
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  20. schizo

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    I see I'm totally wrong....good thing ppl know what they're doing here.
     
    schizo, Jul 2, 2008 IP