PR0 in #1 spot ahead of PR 3 site.

Discussion in 'Google' started by vbcannon, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. #1
    Im looking around at other real estate sites because I am thinking about doing reciprocal linking. I know you are thinking, wait don't do it, but in real estate it has always seemed to work for top sites.

    The reason behind this is, realtors use referral programs where say you are moving from your hometown to chicago, I would be your hometown realtor with a website that has information or links to chicago realtors.

    The main question here, is I was doing some backlink checking and stumble upon (not social bookmarking style) verna mae eady.com

    She has the #1 listing for North Central Florida Real Estate, and North Florida Real Estate. She has a page rank of 0 and the #2 spot has a page rank of 3. But doesn't a page rank of 0 mean you are sandboxed and/or in the supplemental index?

    I guess page rank really doesn't matter, but you can tell that her site is chock full of links, that look spammy as you go down the page, the site is 7 years old. She does have around 850 links, most of which are reciprocal. The #2 spot has like 92 links.

    Do you think that is the main reason she is number 1?

    I would really like your opinions.

    Thanks a lot!
     
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  2. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #2
    Link are based on quality not quanitity, also on relevancy. If a site has more relevant one-way links it would probably out ranked other sites. Not to mention the on-page optimization factor, Pagerank doesn't dictate search results, it just gives a value behind a backlink.
     
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  3. kder86

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    #3
    Also, Google updates the publicly availible data for page ranks just once every three months or so but they themselves update their page rank data more frequently then that.

    A new site I started five weeks ago shows that some of its pages has low and medium page rank with Google webmaster tools but still shows up as n/a under google tool bar.
     
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  4. vbcannon

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    Well what would happen if I were to get a lot of reciprocal links and then do away with my links pointing to their site but still have theirs pointing to mine?

    I have seen people do this. I wouldn't want anyone doing it to me but it seems to work.

    any thoughts?
     
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  5. Luther Blissett

    Luther Blissett Peon

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    If I'm not mistaken I'd be a bit cautious about too many recip. . . the real estate market online was busted pretty heavy by this on update Florida a few years back. . . .

    As for pulling your links. . . well. . good luck. . . those competing and landing in high profit keywords are normally a little bit slicker than to have pulled recips go unnoticed. I personally use a link checking program to keep them honest.

    If you want to know more about shady types of rankings and grabbing cheap one ways, puling links, etc. . . go black hat. You'll do far better with cookie stuffing and cloaking, etc. . .. Although don't be surprised when your site gets pulled, sandboxed, black listed, etc.
     
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  6. Mr. Smoketoomuch

    Mr. Smoketoomuch Peon

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    Not at all, it just means that your site didn't have enough backlinks for bigger PR at the time of latest PR export.
    According to Google guidelines PR matters but it is just one of the ranking factors. For example if one car has 6 cylinders and other car has 8, it doesn't necessarily mean that the car with more cylinders will be faster.
    Bad neighborhood checker tool http://www.bad-neighborhood.com/text-link-tool.htm also doesn't find this site as spam. So it is #1 probably because it is 7 years old and maybe better optimized for the examined keywords than #2 and/or has more and/or better backlinks. There are so many factors that can be the cause.
     
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  7. bradrx7

    bradrx7 Active Member

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    PR also doesn't update everyday, so the toolbar PR might not match the websites real PR.
     
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  8. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    #8
    the toolbar PR doesn't mean anything...I'm sure if the number 2 site puts in a little work, he can outrank that site...
     
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    in my opinion pr0 to pr3 is almost the same thing. you can only see the difference from pr5 and above.
     
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  10. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    Well, people do that. There are a lot sneaker methods to use than simply doing that; like blocking the partner or link page via the robots.txt file. Many webmasters check up on their link exchanges, you would get dropped pretty fast.
     
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    Breakaway11 Well-Known Member

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    how do u check PR through GWT?
     
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  12. giancarlo

    giancarlo Active Member

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    Statistics > Crawler Statistics
     
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