dash in domain or no dash?

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by free, Apr 23, 2006.

  1. #1
    for seo purposes, do you think that it's better to have
    keyword-phrase.com or keywordphrase.com ?
     
    free, Apr 23, 2006 IP
  2. Mystique

    Mystique Well-Known Member

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    #2
    I believe it depends on the phrase, making it a generic "keywordphrase.com" it's hard to determine it.

    Most people try to avoid the dash in domain names but from SEO perspective it may be beneficial.
     
    Mystique, Apr 23, 2006 IP
  3. byoung

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    #3
    In the past i've been against it, but if its a very competitive term it seems to work in seo terms, ie search 'free game' on google. Several results in top 10 with dashs.

    However with regards to people typing in the domain, its better to not have the dash.
     
    byoung, Apr 23, 2006 IP
  4. dna_05

    dna_05 Active Member

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    I have one site in wich i did just a little seo, but if you search in google for "guida adsense" (adsense guide in italian) it is first, no dashes on the domain name.
    But actually i don't think there are many competitors with dashes, it's pretty unpopular, and i really hate to have to type them in.
    I prefer keywordphrase.com
     
    dna_05, Apr 23, 2006 IP
  5. broke-r

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    #5
    For seo purposes it's better to have a domain with dash. (search google about it)

    But again, for commercial purposes, it's better to have domain without dashes... (it looks better) imho!
     
    broke-r, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  6. AmyNelson

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    #6
    I have one domain with a dash, as otherwise it looks like different words, and its doing well. The problem comes when someone tries to type in the url and they always forget to add the dash and can't find the site.
     
    AmyNelson, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  7. yannis

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    #7
    Makes no difference as the - is considered a space.
     
    yannis, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  8. just-4-teens

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    #8
    dashes are considered better for seo, but no dashes are usually easier to remember for visitors (especially when they tell others by word of mouth) if in doubt slpash out an extra $9 and buy both :)
     
    just-4-teens, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  9. jacksmith

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    #9
    There is no doubt that keywordphrase.com looks and sounds better then keyword-phrase.com. And if you are worried about SEO then just put keyword phrase as seperate words in your title, that should solve that little problem. And in any case google is smart enough to find words that are part of bigger words for example when i search for my blog with all the words seperated as workout 4 bloggers google still gives it as the first result on first page, and the best part is that my blog is pretty new. So I suggest you go with keywordphrase.com
     
    jacksmith, Apr 26, 2006 IP
  10. Mr Crow

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    Been watching the auctions and I am shocked what they are now getting for domains with dashes in them

    I just bought 2 more today
     
    Mr Crow, Apr 26, 2006 IP
  11. asterix001

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    #11
    I have been research this for a while and have come to the following conclusion: dashes for filenames, but not more than one dash for domain names. This thread: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/dashes-vs-underscores/ has a couple examples that suggest that two or more dashes in a URL may in fact be harmful in terms of SEO. I have no idea if this is true but in general I notice more highly ranked single word domain names, so I am actually switching my hyphenated name back to non-hyphenated.

    In terms of marketing the domain my previous solution was to have business card and email with no hyphens, and have the non-hyphenated version redirect to the hyphenated version, which I had hyphenated for SEO. Again, in most cases you're probably okay with a dash in the domain name, but from what I've learned recently I wouldn't recommend filling the URL with dashes.

    The one exception is the classic bikesexpo.com - here you would want to use the hyphen (bikes-expo.com) to prevent the search engines from seeing bike-sex-po.com.

    Cheers,
    Alex
    http://www.ContractWebDevelopment.com
     
    asterix001, Jun 29, 2006 IP
  12. MarRome

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    #12
    I hope not. I just bought 1 with 3 dashes yesterday.
     
    MarRome, Jun 29, 2006 IP
  13. Pahrump Mike

    Pahrump Mike Life Is Good

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    #13
    What about losangeles-widgets.com? And losangeleswidgets.com, net, us, org,....etc, are all taken? Is the name as good as the ones with dashes?
     
    Pahrump Mike, Jun 30, 2006 IP
  14. BlueDevilMedia

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    i would register both domains if available. For instance, digitalpoint.com & digital-point.com
     
    BlueDevilMedia, Jun 30, 2006 IP
  15. willybfriendly

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    #15
    Given the choice, take a brandable name over anything else.

    What does the name sound like over a telephone? "No, that's en-why-hyphen-double you - eye - dee - gee- eeh - tee - ess - hyphen - four (the number, not 'eff - oh - are') - hyphen - you - dot - com. Don't forget the hyphen! No, that is the letter 'u' at the end, not 'why - oh - you'. did you spell out 'four' or use the numeral? Try it again with the numeral. OK, try again - en-why-hyphen-double you - eye - dee - gee- eeh - tee - ess - hyphen - four (the numeral - 4!) - hyphen - you (the letter 'u', remember?) - dot - com. Don't forget the hyphen!"

    Is ny-widgets-4-u.com a good domain? I don't think soooo...

    Brandable domains are still out there. I have registered names such as highspice.com, fiberguild.com, siteflo.com, sojaa.org, afcna.com, iaoshow.com, etc.

    Find one of those and do the work necessary to make it rank. The site will be much stronger for it. Model yourself off of sites like amazon, ebay, etc.

    Hyphenated domains are often disposable domains IMHO. (Of course, there is a use for disposable domains from time to time...)
     
    willybfriendly, Jun 30, 2006 IP
  16. idotcom

    idotcom Well-Known Member

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    #16
    I would avoid the dash. Dash in page file names are good, but for type'ins, it's bad in the actual domain.
     
    idotcom, Jul 2, 2006 IP
  17. WebmasterWanabe

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    #17
    Good thread I often wondered about the dash or no dash theory.
     
    WebmasterWanabe, Jul 2, 2006 IP
  18. Michael

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    For SEO purposes definately keyword1-keyword2.com but keep it to one or two hyphens for the domain.

    The reason for this is simple. Google indexes on keywords in hyphenated urls but not on keywords in underscored or conjoined urls.

    Of course sometimes SEO considerations will be outweighed by branding issues in which case hyphens are to be avoided.

    - Michael

     
    Michael, Jul 2, 2006 IP
  19. indianseo

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    I do agree on this regard..
    But still if the off page factors are really good enough, dash or no dash doesn't matter at all.
     
    indianseo, Jul 3, 2006 IP
  20. Aaron111

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    I read some where that using dashes disrupts Google and those trying to memorize the domain""
     
    Aaron111, Feb 10, 2008 IP