http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1024863/Like-gold-coin-dunghill-truth-EU.html Excerpt But do the people even care anymore that their countries are being subverted by corporate technocrats? Or are they too obsessed with television and getting into shape with wii Fit? This is what is coming for North America next. It all starts out as NAFTA and CAFTA did. With trade agreements and harmonization. Then you get the SPP with Canadian troops able to deploy inside the US and US troops in Canada. Start leaving the borders more and more wide open, and we're probably less than 20 years from a North American Union in function, if not in form.
As an inhabitant of Poland, let me assure you - *some* of us in the EU do care. However, the majority isn't even aware of it. From what I'm reading on the net, exactly the same lack of general awareness is present in the US.. Really, isn't there any hope left..?
Yes, there is hope. It lives in your heart and mind. You can't hope for anyone else to do it for you. It's your job to get the word out and to campaign. If you contact We Are Change Ireland, they might have information and materials to help you spread the message.
ok, let's assume we will manage to get people informed about this issue. Then what? If even the french were ignored WTF will we (the ones from smaller countries) get to say about it? You will see what will happen to Ireland. The other states are going to continue to ratify the treaty, then they're going to give Ireland a special deal and problem solved: they got what they wanted. And then they're going to keep holding the referendum in Ireland until they get the vote they want once. Problem solved
Politicians in Europe couldn't give a rats ass on what the population thinks. Not only did they try and push the treaty as quickly as possible they also restricted their own people from voting - they knew this shit wouldn't fly. Funny how we've voted no but yet politicians in France & Germany are calling for another referendum. Do these pricks not understand the meaning of no? They can fix the treaty all they want asking us to vote again is just going to piss us off even more.
Never give up on revolution. It's hard enough fighting your enemies, don't defeat yourself before the battle begins.
The elites in brussels are shitting their pants over the referendum, hopefully we will see the end of the EU soon.
Europe was first, next will be north america and central america. Slowly, your nations will be stripped of our sovereign status. One good thing, the US supreme court recently ruled that treaties can not over ride laws of the states. I am really surprised that the EU has lasted as long as it has. Its as if people do not care that their nations are being stripped away and replaced by a centralized EU government. Just wait until the next big war breaks out.Then we will see how long these "unions" last. Also, these "unions" and lose of identity will leave a place open for someone to rise to power. This is the same thing that happened to Germany after World War I. A new generation of youths will be brought up looking back on the "good ole days." One of the children from today will be tomorrows leader. All its going to take is the right leader to be in the right place at the right time and this EU is going to fall apart. Or rather, its going to be bombed apart.
This is just leading to a One World Order. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-489653/Human-race-split-different-species.html
The last time we got to vote on anything major in Europe was in the 70s. One of the reasons why Gordon Brown is so disliked and has no chance of winning any kind of election is because we (the British) feel like we have no say in the EU. He won't hold any kind of referendum because he knows we'll show our dislike for the EU. I'm very EU-skeptic, like the majority of Brits, we don't really see ourselves as Europeans, as I'm guessing the French, for instance, do. I do have to say that the majority of EU law I've come into contact with (European Working Time Directive for instance) tends to be good. It's a very scary thought that we don't have much of an influence over our own laws though, it's wrong, when we have some referendum on the EU in future, our voices will be heard.
The EU is very undemocratic really. Once every seven years we vote for Members of the European Parliament - but they have absolutely no public face. I doubt whether 99% of the electorate could name even one MEP that is supposed to be representing them. There is a lot of Euro-scepticism in Britain - there are a number of United Kingdom Independence Party MEP's from in Brussels, but this isn't really a political consciousness but merely being a statement of insular bigotry against foreigners - Germans, French, Spanish and all the rest. Personally, it's not an issue that particularly enrages me - not least because I look a what constitutes the British parliament and I think, You can't be any worse than this lot. The Daily Mail and all of the Murdoch press are very anti-EU, but then they are in an extremely powerful position in our dysfunctional democracy here in Britain with a really palpable influence on government policy. They know that this does not stretch to the European parliament.
When enough people get pissed off then there is revolution. The internet is the wild card which spreads information. The gun gives freedom. Take away either and we're screwed.
The french rejected the EU constitution twice if I remember correctly. It seems like they don't like it either
No, I'm french and vote only for the nationalist party so I know about it. Before this treaty there was another one called european constitution, exactly similar. Why? It's because the first one was submitted to a referendum in France and they voted no to over 55% (deputies and medias were about 95% for a yes) The solution from europe suckers wasn't to call for another referendum, it was to create another version of the constitution this time as a treaty and make it approved by the national parlement Then there's a presidential election, and the new president didn't do a referendum but made the deputies in the parlement vote for it, so now france has approved exactly what french people disapproved. Many other countries directly approved by their parlement, so this europe thing is being built without the approval of the people, it's completely artificial
Yeah, one percent, bull****. They want to ignore it, even though the votes "against" only in Ireland itself clearly outweigh the votes "for" from both Ireland and the rest of the EU (since this was the only referendum this time, elsewhere the vote 'for' was a decision of the local parliament/government) :>
Yeah, 53% is really big time win. Almost as big of a win as Quebec separating from Canada, 51% against 49% for lol.