Yea, I thought of posting this there because I know there is always one meat-head that will deny all rationale to make believe they are right. Which they are after all.. Right? And yea, soy's supposed to be pretty bad. I don't eat it.
Most 'meat heads' do not use soy as they believe it to raise estrogen. Many studies 'you know that science' has shown it has no real adverse effects. I myself use soy w/o a problem. -- I however limit my soy intake, I do not use soy above other sources and only supplement with it on small quantities.
Sounds good, but I'm just telling you what my GP told me last week. I will look up the most recent studies and get back to you guys.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson71.htm here is some info. many things can increase estrogen, many items you'd normally not suspect With anything not over doing it is the key. I personally don't see anything wrong with some soy. Would I totally change my protein intake to soy? Hell no. Will I eat soy beans, drink soy milk on occasion or use soy protein powders? YES
List the bodybuiding ufc fighter. "I have never seen a bodybuilder in the UFC. I have only seen fighters. Protein help repair muscle and to grow muscle you need protein. Bodybuilders compete in bodybuilding contest
All the journal articles they cited are at least ten years old. Here is a more recent one I found: http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/132/3/570S Sum of article: Soy slightly good for old women, no effect on men. I am still going to watch my soy intake though until I get a complete answer though:
I would love to see a 12 weekk case study between him and and someone eating protein using a heavy lifting program program and see who acquired the most mass. I don't think he would bulk.
Hmm, I think the guy eating the meat and 'protein' drinks would have more mass, considering I admitted it on.. page 1?
No, he couldn't slam most bodybuilders in a match. I will pick Eddie Robinson Bodybuilder over him anyday in Arm Wrestling. I'll take Sherry Smith & Debbie Bramwell too.
Exaggerating to disprove a so called myth, well if you don't see why people wont take you seriously I don't know what to tell you. Like in the vid you posted the guy claims to have 'no body fat' which of course is false, yet people take the guy seriously.
I have to say I have met those on a raw or vegan diet and they are the some of the healthiest and strongest I have seen. They are often quite muscular and look youthful. I think meat is overrated
Around 3:40 in the video he says: "It used to be blood had to be cooked before you could look at it under a microscope" What a load of BS.
Lol yeah. I actually have gained more weight than I have in my entire life ever since I stopped eating meat. Maybe my metabolism is just slowing down, but I don't think so. I think I am just eating healthier. Thinner is not alway healthier: I used to weight like 130lbs at 6'3'' while seriously eating about 1kg of meat every other day. Anyways, this discussion is getting pretty pointless like most discussions on forums.