Registrar Questins and Hosting Companies Holding domains

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by tdd1984, Jun 23, 2008.

  1. #1
    I have asked a few questions in here the last two days, but this is one I'm very curious about--does hosting companies have the right to hold your domain from you for any particular reason or cancel / delete it?

    I'd imagine the domains is yours as long as your paying for it, legally its yours?
     
    tdd1984, Jun 23, 2008 IP
  2. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    Some people believe they don't, while others do. But the answer lies in your
    agreement with the provider you're doing business with, as it spells out what
    both you and they can and can't do.

    It so happens the provider's agreement puts them in a stronger position. Just
    as they don't necessarily have "absolute rights" over it, neither do you.
     
    Dave Zan, Jun 24, 2008 IP
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    Perhaps there should be more discussion on this board and elsewhere about which companies provide the best protection for consumers and which ones have a history of taking away domain names. Most of the agreements are too long and full of legal mumbo jumbo for the average layman to fully understand.
     
    csi, Jun 24, 2008 IP
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    tdd1984 Well-Known Member

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    I seriously don't see how someone could hold you domain. That's pretty screwed u :( I was reading in the ICANN that the registrar has a max. of 5 days to turn over your domain and its legally yours.
     
    tdd1984, Jun 24, 2008 IP
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    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    It's a matter of trying to know and understand how it works, especially if you
    read your agreement.

    Here's one way to see it: I lease you a room of my apartment building for one
    year. You don't renew it after a year, but you didn't take your things out.

    As the apartment owner, I have the right to toss your things out the door and
    rent it to someone else. You may complain about it, but you don't have any
    more rights since you didn't renew your lease.

    Or let's say six months in your lease, I inspect your apartment while you're off
    and I found drugs. Part of your rental agreement says no drugs allowed or I'll
    kick you out, so I toss your things out. (or rather call the cops...)

    The thing here to understand is you don't have an absolute right over any and
    all domain names you register. Your rights towards them are defined by your
    provider's registration agreement, coupled with whatever limited "rights" that
    ICANN might allow.

    I'll tell you this: as long as you consistently pay for the domain name, coupled
    with complying with your provider's terms as much as you can, then you might
    be fine for the most part and your chances of losing the domain name are nil.
    Everything we sought to buy and possess carries a degree of responsibility we
    might be held accountable to uphold.
     
    Dave Zan, Jun 24, 2008 IP
  6. tdd1984

    tdd1984 Well-Known Member

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    David,

    I actually just got off the phone with the domain transfer division over at ICANN because I e-mailed them to ask about it and they called me. They told me that as long as the domain is registered to me and I make the payments the domains are strictly mine. They said they have no reason what so ever to hold them, they said the only reason that they can hold them is if a payment has not been made or the domain registry has not been updated to the correct info.
     
    tdd1984, Jun 24, 2008 IP
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    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    Then you might want to ask someone else, because that's incomplete. If you
    recall the transfer policy, it states conditions when a transfer can be denied.

    While other conditions aren't mentioned there, the transfer policy doesn't say
    either what other conditions aren't allowed. I saw your other thread, though,
    so I'll reply there shortly.
     
    Dave Zan, Jun 24, 2008 IP