Your coming from a one sided view though, look at both pictures and tell me that this is not a religious war. Does it just so happen that the Islam wants Jerusalem because it's one of the three holy lands? Yes...
no they want their home. their country and so on. if israelis have the right after 2000 years then palestanians have it after 60 years also. Israel understands this. it is just some fre-ks that want to complicate the issues by bringing the religion into it These extremists are in all religions and countries. They nust be defeated. and ignored. t
I imagine it is because the average Palestinian is tired of living under an apartheid regime in the world's largest open air prison. Perpetuating the notion of a holy war serves the Israel apologists, it doesn't address the human rights tragedy/reality of the current situation.
You don't know that much about history, do you? I suppose your comment about Christ explains the first part of your post, ignorance and religion always go hand in hand.
It was never about religion. Let me ask you a question and i want you to do some research. Who helped hamas to get off the ground with some much needed government finding? Thats right the isreali government. Why did they do this? To try to split the plo apart as the plo wasnt an extremist religious movement but a nationalistic movement(a very brutal and heartless one though).
as expected, Israelis, the enemies of peace, assassinated 2 Palestinians today, Palestinians replied by firing rockets.
i think cease fire will still hold. both side need to abide by it. @imad: i hope this does not become another story about how palestanians got baited by israelis. they must keep the truce to the letter. This is the best approach for palestanians.I do not want to sound like a broken record but so what.
I understand you, Hamas is still calling to keep on the cease fire, IJM considered the cease fire ended today after Israel assassinated two of its members, it won't be long till Israel do it again, for how long should the Palestinians keep on the truce, while Israel not? after 100 get killed, 1000? 10,000, I do not think there is a limit, and what is the result at the end if there is an end?
There is no limit. All factions must be strong and resolute not to be dragged back to fighting. palestanian should start clearing up as much as possible and even building homes and buildings in gaza. normalize life as much as possible. edit:How much are you willing to take and how long for your goal. 60 years one way at least two years this other way. The way of success.
You seem so optimistic which is good, but I m unlike you do not feel like this, and I think most who live there in Gaza and West Bank, do not feel so optimistic, because, what you are speaking about, already took place in the past and led to nothing, I m not sure how much you know about the history of the conflict, you are speaking as the problem is in the Palestinian side, by saying "Palestinians should do so and so.." most of the time, what about the Israeli side, they should do lot of things, from respecting cease fire agreements, to UN resolutions that they never implemented, and we have seen how much US cared about UN resolutions when Saddam did not implement them in 1991, and we also have seen how much US did not care about UN resolutions when they went to war in 2003. so far, no word of condemnation been said from those who call themselves peace supporters, against the new Israeli crime that took place yesterday, instead, people speak about Palestinians should stay calm, keep on the cease fire, and so on, I hope it will hold, on both sides, but I do not think it would make logic, if Israeli crimes continued, and the world turn a blind eye on them, this will push the Palestinians, towards taking care of their own cause and create if not a military win, then by creating an insecurity balance.
World Peace is not possible; I think we all can agree on that. The only way that world peace is possible is if the world as we know it would just explode and everyone and everything on it died. That...is the only peace that I can see. As long as humans exist, we'll always be at war with each other simply because it's human nature. It's how we are. I don't think it's possible for us all to just, 'get along'. unknown If we can't end all wars, we still can try in the same way as in police when they fight crime, they know they can't stop it, not being able to stop crime does not mean police should stop fighting it.
i am suggesting a way that i think will produce a palestanian state in the shortest amount of time. When i talk to some one on the palestanian sides i try to talk about things they can do and when i talk to the israeli side i talk about what they should do. I do not try to find the cause and the start of the problem. I start by making an agreement on where we are and where we want to go.and then have a game plan on how to get there. now in support of my plan. How can you hold two opposing point of view at the same time. You think Israelis did this attack to entice a reaction and you think that providing this exact reaction is a smart idea.Just think about it for a second. Also keep in mind that nobody said peaceful resistance is actually peaceful. just successful
Members of Islamic Jihad, not a member of the truce, were assassinated in the West Bank, not an area where the truce is in effect. I don't see any problem (regarding violating the truce) here.
Yes I do believe Israelis did the attack, to entice a reaction and I think Palestinians should give them this reaction, since nothing else worked before, and will not work in future, so the only way left for Palestinians is to resist, of course what so called the international community will not react, Israelis will not have enough crimes, and staying without reaction will not put an end to Israeli crimes, if it would then it would have done so long ago, if you think 2 years, of Israel assassinating Palestinians, prisoning them, and making their live hell in Wet Bank and Gaza, will end in peace, then it would be a short road to take but there were times when more than two years passed without violence, example, is the years before 1994 when the first suicide bombing happened in Israel, during the years before, they did many crimes, from burning mosques, to assassinating, and they toped it in 1987 when an Israeli truck hit on purpose a group of Palestinians workers who were waiting on the check point to go work in Israel, killing several of them, which then, triggered the first Intifada which was unarmed, despite being unarmed many Palestinians got killed. what you are saying, and I know you have good intentions, but it will fall on Palestinians ears like: "lets get our pop corn, and watch them both, if Israel killed them, they should stay calm, they should not react, Israel is testing their true willing of peace, they may kill 10, 100, thousands, who cares, but if they reacted and fired one rocket, then it means they do not want peace, and Israel was right to kill thousands of them" I do not think Palestinians have any hopes left on the international community, and dishonest peace partners, the only thing left to them I think, is to resist, not by staying calm, cos nobody will count their deaths, and nobody will react about them, the only way I believe for them is to react and create insecurity balance, which is more possible to make a pressure inside Israel to stop Israeli aggressions. so I think the two views are not opposite, Israel wanted Palestinians to react, cos later they will cry "terrorists, they want to destroy us, they want to kill us all" because they know, nobody will speak about what they did, and since Palestinians know already that nobody is watching Israel, or knows about what is doing, then there is no use, in staying calm, 2 years will pass, and end with more Palestinian getting killed, and with an international community which says, Palestinians are good, they are getting killed and they are silent about it, it means, Israel is only killing those who are considered terrorist, else Palestinians would react. will be a great mistake if Palestinians dropped the arms, its something that should be in negotiations, not a pre-requirement to negotiations. I also agree with other means of resistance, boycotting both Israel and who behind Israel, like US, whom are seen as a crime partners by most Palestinians, in supporting Israel with arms, and weapons to kill them, and also in no reaction about Israeli crimes, I hope there will be peace someday, not the kind of peace Israel and US want for the region, but a peace which is based on justice.
2 Palestinians people were killed, lets not play dumb, and try to separate the Palestinian people, even though they were against the truce, but they respected it because it came from Hamas, and they kept on it, but said they will consider themselves out of the truce if Israel broke cease fire.
No they didn't. That's the whole point. Islamic Jihad doesn't give a squirt of piss what treaties are signed between Hamas and Israel. Islamic Jihad is not going to take orders from Khaled Mashaal, Ismail Haniyah, or on the other hand, Mahmoud Abbas. They are a separate entity. They take orders from Ayman al-Zawahiri, y'know the Egyptian. They are an international organization. Much the same as Hassan Nasrallah's Hezbollah.