Facebook: Arm Chair Lawyers Welcome!

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by aceriker, Jun 23, 2008.

  1. #1
    My company has just been served with a cease and desist order from Facebook claiming that their trademarks, patents and copyright is being infringed by our Kootali software - which we market as a Facebook clone.

    Specifically they are saying we are infringing on the following areas.

    1. Copies and displays Facebook's registered trademarks without authorization
    2. Displays Facebook's copyright-protected organizations and compilations
    3. Copies Facebook's unqiue patented business methods

    Essentially what they are saying is that in order to have created our software, we needed to browse the Facebook website, which would go against their terms.

    Since the company is in India, I'm not sure what kind of legal action they can take - but we're going to get a lawyer involved to see what our options are :D

    However, this could set a precedent for any other company who is creating and selling 'clone' software.

    After reading the response by a former litigation lawyer (http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back) I'm wondering whether we should prepare a similar document :)

    The laws under which we are being accused of breaching are:

    1. Copyright Act, 17 U.S.C § 100
    2. Lanham Act , 15 U.S.C. Chapter 22
    3. Comprehensive Computer Data Access and Fraud Act. Cal Penal Code § 502(c)
    4. Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1030
    5. State Law prohibiting interference with Facebook's business expectations and interests as well as those laws prohibiting unfair competition and unjust enrichment

    Arm chair lawyers...what do you think? Guilty as sin or not a leg to stand on.
     
    aceriker, Jun 23, 2008 IP
  2. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #2
    You used the facebook logo on a commercial product. That's trademark infringement.

    If Facebook sues you, are you willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars to argue your case? - and while you might be able to argue some of their points, the TM infringement is obvious.

    Retain an intellectual property rights attorney immediately.
     
    mjewel, Jun 23, 2008 IP
  3. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #3
    Calling your clone "Agriya Facebook" was not a good idea.

    Looking at your demo pages, you are plainly using the facebook name in an attempt to trade off its goodwill. It is one thing to make a clone of the software, but you can't call it by the same name as the product you copied.

    Get a lawyer, you are going to need it.
     
    browntwn, Jun 23, 2008 IP
  4. InfoH

    InfoH Well-Known Member

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    #4
    lol are you kidding?

    http://stemp.agriya.in/agbook/ - facebook logo(slightly edited) all over the page..
    not to mention
    Agriya Facebook © 2007
    in the bottom which i'm gonna go out on a limb and say its only for show.. as with most copyrights on the internet lol

    end of the day you done wrong.. and i'd recommend ya dont take it further do as they have asked you else ya gonna waste alot of money
     
    InfoH, Jun 23, 2008 IP
  5. xmartel

    xmartel Active Member

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    I'd say you're definitely the one in the wrong. You should change your site and product straight away.
     
    xmartel, Jun 23, 2008 IP
  6. hexinator

    hexinator Peon

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    wow, I just clicked on the link and my antivirus showed a virus alert saying "An attack to you computer has just been blocked"

    Are you(agriya) by any chance trying to distribute any spyware? :S
     
    hexinator, Jun 23, 2008 IP
  7. craig33

    craig33 Peon

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    i got the same message when i went there telling me there was a Trojan-Clicker.JS.Agent.h
     
    craig33, Jun 23, 2008 IP
  8. ScriptLoft

    ScriptLoft Peon

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    Same here,

    Trojan-Clicker.JS.Agent.h
     
    ScriptLoft, Jun 23, 2008 IP
  9. kaiote

    kaiote Guest

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    i didn't get the message. does that mean i have a virus now.

    awesome.
     
    kaiote, Jun 26, 2008 IP
  10. wowla_123

    wowla_123 Peon

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    Yes, they can't do much if you are in India but if you are using services from any American company, you may be in trouble, as they can choose to not offer you their services. For example, hosting, payment processor etc.
     
    wowla_123, Jun 26, 2008 IP
  11. CyprusMike

    CyprusMike Active Member

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    You are clearly infringing Facebook's protected trademarks and goodness knows what else. I certainly wouldn't waste money on instructing counsel to try and protect your position.

    Re you being in India, you are not immune from action. In terms of legal strategy, possible the easiest route for Facebook to take would be to obtain judgement in the US courts, which they could then present to a court in India, who would then (depending on the particular rules of Indian civil procedure) issue their own judgement based on the US judgement, and take the appropriate action (damages, injunction etc). And given that you're going to be lumbered with Facebook's legal costs, that's going to hurt, whichever way you cut it.
     
    CyprusMike, Jul 1, 2008 IP
  12. dragons5

    dragons5 Well-Known Member

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    And agriaya was not sued, nor were any clones. The chinese version even got 10 million in seed money to start.

    i'd wait this one out a bit.

    remember always. Facebook started by Mark ripping off his classmates, the owners of ConnectU.com
     
    dragons5, Jul 3, 2008 IP