Karzai threatens to send Afganistan Army into Pakistan

The UAE is a good example of a successful middle eastern country that is not a democracy.

 

Kuwait and dubai are also examples. My cousin works in dubai and hes very happy there. Very liberal country.

 

Kuiwait and Dubai both have monarchies. Sheikh Mohammed is Crown Prince and Kuwait is a constitutional monarchy.

 

I reject the notion that democracy is too good for brown people or that brown people are not good enough for democracy.

It's a fundamentally racist concept.

 

I think democracy is crap. And I figure they do as well.

Democracy can work in small groups, it simply does not translate to populations of millions. Factor in voter apathy, ignorance and confusion, it is impossible to get a result that has any meaning. Not to mention the implicit moral hazard of 50% + 1 vote ruling the remaining 49%.

This is why self and local governance is so important. The Founders understood this when they limited federal power and specifically allocated certain areas of social concern to the states. Unfortunately, we've f**ked that all up.

Monarchies can work. Feudalism can work. Anarchy can work. Communism can work. But only by the consent of the governed.

This absolutely crazy Woodrow Wilson crusade for democracy has cost the world millions upon millions of lives. It's western arrogance to think that telling people how to live is setting them free.

 

Afgan president will make a great mistake, if they do it so.

 

Stop with BS and trying to pretend that war in Iraq or Afghanistan is about democracy. The colonial history of USA in 20th century has shown that USA has no interest in establishing any kind of democracy in it's colonies. Quite to the contrary, the history of military juntas, school of America which teaches torture and murder to different dictatorships shows that USA has no interest in establishing any kind of democracy and prefers to work with military dictatorships that are always ready to slaughter their own people by the regular army or unofficial death squads.
Give one example in USA colonies in south America that are effectively run by U.S. embassies in those countries that have a democracy. If you by democracy, you simply mean a show election like Iraq, then you are misinformed since they had that during Saddam and even Iran has regular elections.

 

A democracy without a proper constitution and institutions to support it is a very unstable system of government. The Nazis came to power using a democratic process.

I know some people that went to the school of America and it's a good school. The School of Americas saved Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala from the communists.

 

And so did Bush, your point is? Do you think that a military dictatorship should be established in USA?

 

The US has a good constitution and the institutions that are required to run a democracy. Without the military countries like Egpyt and Pakistan would go into chaos.

 

Tell that to people who have been thrown out alive out of helicopters or their hands and feet were cut off by chain saw for a remote chance that they might have some information and they might talk. It is easy to applaud killing when you are not the one who is at receiving end of a barrel of a gun.

The way that USA political situation is developing, the question is how long will it be before the specialists from school of America start to save the homeland from undesirable Americans?

I agree that USA has a good constitution but unfortunately lately it is only used as toilet paper.

 

Democracy had a hard struggle in Europe.

France after the 1789 French Revolution was ruled by an Emperor, Napoleon. After the Napoleonic Wars the French Monarchy was restored only to be replaced by another short lived democracy. Again France had another emperor, Napoleon III, who lost power after the 1870-1871 Franco-Prussian War.

Germany didn't really much more luck than the French. They were ruled by the Kaiser until 1918. Democarcy faltered during the Weimar Republic and Hitler brought Germany into a totalitarian regime.

Italy has had 62 governments since World War Two.

Spain was ruled by Franco until 1975.

Eastern Europe was ruled by the Russian Czar and Habsburg Emperor until the end of WW1. Thereafter replaced by communist totalitarian regimes

Democracy did not take hold in Europe until the 50 year American occupation preceding WW2. Even today, most European countries still have constitutional monarchies.

You can not say it's an easy thing to implement a democracy.

 

I definitely concur with your assessment.

Democracy isn't easy, but the paybacks in terms of peace and economic progress are enormous.

Democracy creates peace, the evidence is startling.

Democracy also, obviously, creates economic progress. guerilla may not like Democracy after the American people rejected his chosen Messiah by wide margins in the Presidential primaries, but one has only to look at the economic record of non-Democratic nation states to determine that Democracy is the best way to make a nation prosperous.

 

I agree. Look at all of the peace democracy brought to Vietnam. 1 million dead, and the My Lai massacre.

Look at all of the peace democracy brought to Iraq. Millions of refugees, deaths in the hundreds of thousands, and the Falluljah massacre.




Liechtenstein is a neutral Parliamentary Principality. Therefor, Principalities create peace.

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc

Capitalism creates economic progress. Not democracy.

The USSR was a democracy. The only difference is, they had one party, where we have two that act the same.

 

South Vietnam was the target on the communists and a full state of war. Chinese and North Vietnamese troops were on a constant attack and war material was being shipped from the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. It's impossible in the midst of a major war to create a democracy and hard enough when there is peace.

 

The Vietnamese finally threw the French imperialists out, and wanted communism because it promised land reform.

But because we value the life of brown people so little, we murdered 1 million of them in the name of improving their political system.

The honest answer on Vietnam is that it was another failed global police action by an empire incapable of fighting guerilla tactics, and too hard headed and arrogant to try diplomacy.

Diem was no hero for the Vietnamese, but he was our boy. A Saddam Hussein for Saigon.

 

I <3 Bogart.