British soliders fire 2m rounds in six months - Afganistan

In today's times you don't need a massive army to be a real threat. They let in and shielded Bin Laden

 

The leader of the Taliban offered to turn over Bin Laden. All Bush had to do was provide proof of Bin Laden's involvment in the 9/11 attacks. This isn't unreasonable when requesting someone's extradition.

 

It wasn't reasonable to give Al-Qaeda a safe haven so they could train terrorists to attack us.

 

It was reasonable for them to do it when they were being supplied and trained by us to take on Russia though right? More of your double standard?

 

I thought Bogart educated you on that a while ago? We didn't support the Taliban. And I think most of the covert shit we've done over the years was justified in the war on communism. As evil as you think the US is, communism is a lot more evil.

WTF am I off ignore? I was having fun with the one sided debate thing and looking forward to the occasional shot by proxy at me.

 

Bogart didn't educate me on jack. I have a lot of respect for Bogart, even though we only agree on a few issues.

Fascism and Communism are opposite sides of the same statist paradigm.

Of course you think it was justified to train, finance and equip blood thirsty fanatics. It's always justified when you do the killing.

I've got news for you. You can be an American and not approve of CIA sponsored terrorism, or military assassination and occupation. You can be an American and a thinking, feeling, compassionate human being.

I don't take shots by proxy. You're intellectually lazy. You resort to acting like a 10 year old when confronted with a solid argument. Why should I waste my time with you? That said, you laid this big stinking turd of your duplicity out there, and I simply could not resist calling you on it.

 

The Russians invading and getting bogged down in Afghanistan sure didn't do a lot to help the USSR survive did it?

That's not news.

By proxy I meant that you had responded the other day to a post by someone else that quoted me.

No I don't. Chances are I was already acting like a 10 year old before the so-called "solid argument" was presented.

Big stinking turd, is that the type of language I have to learn/adopt if I don't want to be seen as childish?

 

This can go two ways. Either I'll end up hunting you down and confronting you or we will end up friends.

It's about 60/40 right now.

 

LOL. I actually like you grillo. I think you're a decent person with good values. I just think your views on the US are myopic. You look at things in more absolute terms where I see things in ratios. I admit I'm a moral relativist. There now you can use that against me.

 

I post in absolute terms for a reason.

I don't have a lifetime for relativism to make a point. I'm looking to find a couple people with a sense of justice, self-worth and passion, not convert the entire forum.

I'm looking for the Isaiah's remnant.

I'm not a relativist, but I too have to live in an unfair world that is not going to change overnight.

 

Well soon enough the jig is up.

America is quickly showing that it can't afford to police the world, whether it wants to or not.

 

You got it. If people won't change, they'll either agree to live at a dramatically lower standard, or the conditions of the system will make them change.

It's not a joke that we're out of money. But people are barely hurting now with gas and food prices. Wait until they cut pensions.

 

Do you believe it will go so far as to scrap the Social Security Net? I was doing some reading on the history of Fiat money, and realize that the British Empire went on and off the Gold standard since the 18th century, and was run on fiat currency. Its expansion & Wars were funded by taxation and borrowed money.

If nothing has happened to the British Empire for 200 years of Fiat Monetary system, what could possibly happen to the US in only a 100 years?

 

How will we fund it? The debt is coming due whether we like it or not. And the debt is trillions more than tax receipts.

As it is, people on pensions and fixed incomes are getting beaten up by the bogus CPI figures and monetary inflation. Quadruple that. Imagine people getting Social Security payments of $2000 a month, but the purchasing power is equivalent to $150 circa 2008?

Sure. But wars create short term false prosperity (fallacy of the broken window) through inflation. In economics, what goes up must come down.

It's the digital age. There is no hard money standard to go on or off. Everything is fiat. We're in a global economy, with global markets, and everything is moving 1,000s of times faster than it was for the British empire.

Not to mention the British were never as far in debt as us, nor had they constructed such a massive welfare state at the time. Our deathblow will be our entitlements, because it is not politically possible to cut those benefits, not to mention that sending old people back out to work in an economy that favors youth and technical aptitude is unfathomable.

You either starve the old people with inflation or cuts, or you collapse the empire very quickly, in a very ugly way.

Who is going to lend us more money? We're insolvent. As soon as the Chinese de-peg the Yuan, it's going to get wild and woolly.

 

Very True. The US Government will not be able to honour its commitment to millions of people who had invested their life savings in Social Security and 401K, unless it becomes a net producer and exporter of goods to the world.

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Unless there is a massive influx of millions of new Taxpayers into the Economy (Think North American Union, millions of Mexican workers, Social Security Tax Payers)

That is why I feel there much-advertised Retirement plans and Pension Plans are a hogwash, coz until you retire, the economy would be so highly inflated (Time Value for Money) that what you get would be mostly pennies for dollars invested originally.

It is a Time-Bomb, as the Dave Walker, Comptroller General of the United States and head of the GAO had stated.

 

LOL.

Boy, you don't know what you are talking about. The kind of cars that you I drive, you will never drive in your life time.
I have also served in my country military while you most likely just played war games on your computer like other chickenhawks.

Don't worry, Afghanistan and Iraq will not help USA to survive either, the break down has already started.

 

double posting

 

Communism is fundamentally much more flawed than democratic based capitalism. I think we can handle strains such as Afghanistan and Iraq without crumbling. Sorry to ruin your day.

 

LOL. All signs of great economy in USA like the rise of American pesos, certainly shows that you are right.

 

You're right, I'm convinced. Death to America!! Can I join your local jihad chapter?