Waaaaah! Waaaaaah! Waaaaaah! You got put on ignore for this I realize you don't know very much, and resort to humor rather than get off your butt and learn something, which is why when you aren't interested in a sincere discussion, you end up on my ignore list where all trolls belong. I'll stay out of your threads, and you can stop begging like a little female dog for me to pay attention to you and your antics. Capice? PS, I seen you kissing up to the neocons. That's good. Clueless people should band together and pool their IQ points. Increase your chance of survival. And they might rep you to 1000 points if you post enough hate propaganda.
I was having fun with the getrealla. I try to keep things somewhat light in here because I don't want to become one of the people that seems to have personal problems with others on this board. I take none of this stuff personally. You attacked me personally(although subtly) several times before and in that thread by calling me ignorant and morally bankrupt just because I didn't agree with you. I responded with a couple funnies that were a lot less personal and less arrogant(thinking that my opinion has been ordained somehow as being correct just because they are MY opinions). I don't care about getting attention. What I care about is you wiggling out of honest debates by claiming others are wiggling out of debates and then carrying on your one-sided info war of propaganda.
I think some software came out to compete with PHPBayPro and he's probably busy with that. Hey, can you get that link @ Wikileaks shared around? I didn't see it at any of the usual sites. He was actually pretty old. I didn't like him, but I hope he's ok.
Haha. Got my first neg rep ever here just now for this post: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=6735540&postcount=2 Bring 'em on people I've got plenty to spare.
More power to you. I would expect nothing less. You don't think just because you express your opinion that I don't get to express mine as well do you? As for the "terrorism" manual you posted. Looks pretty bad from your thread. I checked the source link and glanced at that. I would like to read the manual myself before commenting. I have a job, a family, and a life. I don't just have time or desire to drop everything and read a 200+ page field manual just so I can make an educated reply to your thread. You think too much of yourself. Here is my first impression to tide you over: Your calling it a terrorism manual is precisely the anti-American spin that I am talking about above. You add to the facts to help color the story. It is not just a presentation of facts. Like most of your threads here, you are projecting your opinion of what the facts mean, and everyone with a different opinion gets insulted. I disagree with many of your views and most of your tactics.
Exactly how accurate is Wikileaks? Well, think of it as the "Encyclopedia of Documents that any idiot with an internet connection can add to". Think: If the government didn't want you know this, you wouldn't know about it.
You didn't even follow my links. This is my own text, the rest is from the links. So please don't waste my time. You not only aren't going to read the manual, you couldn't even be bothered to follow the links and read the excerpts, see the scans of the official signatures on it, the blog entry I found out about it on, or the summary written for it. You probably didn't read Kucinich's 80 some pages of Articles of Impeachment either. I guess that's the best way to create a government conspiracy. Write big books, articles and manuals. No one reads anymore. No one cares anymore.
Umm. This is off-topic but I thought it's fair to guerilla to post it, in case anyone thought it was him who neg repped me(I never thought it was him) for no good reason. He green repped me which more than makes up for the two anonymous cowards who red repped me in an unrelated section of DP.
I followed the link to the document. I guess you just copied the terrorism line from a blog and you are the one who specifically chose to use that to title your thread. Stop playing this game. You wrote it, you believe it, so why are you getting twisted because I call you on it. More bullshit from you about reading. I guess you get to decide what is important for everyone to read. Did you read every Supreme Court opinions as they are handed down? Do you read every proposed bill presented by a member of Congress - then stop being a little bitch whining that I didn't read everything that interests you. As for Kucinich's articles, I think Bush has committed impeachable offenses, and I am smart enough to know that nothing will come of it - whether I read Kucinich's 80 pages or not. (p.s. It took him 3-4 hours to read it outlook. I don't have that kind of time to waste for no purpose just because you might think its worthy)
Did I add to the facts? If you choose to comment on the thread topic, and criticize me for how I posted it, do you really think it is unreasonable to have expected you to have at least read in more than a cursory manner, what you have chosen to post on? Expanding your horizons is not "no purpose". I find it funny that people comment on my threads, but when asked why they won't get deeper into the topic, or even address it factually, they start crying about having no time. If you don't have time to read, why have time to post without knowledge? Terrorism is appropriate. The document also details tactics for domestic (intra-US) psychological warfare against the citizenry. In plain English, that's where the government conducts a propaganda campaign against the people it represents. I don't believe it is patriotic to condone, endorse, excuse or allow my government to commit terrorism against others. When it does so, I am less safe, and evil is committed in my name. I mean, this isn't even an extreme view on my part. If we're going to have a federal government, that collects federal income taxes, and has a standing army, then is it so extreme to ask them not to conduct terrorism and mess with other countries that will eventually end up hating us (particularly in the information age, where memories are long and getting longer) and seeking our violent destruction?
I'm sorry did you say that you did read every Supreme Court opinion and every proposed bill by a member of Congress? Oh you just ignored that to go on about how I didn't read what interests you. YOU alone made terrorism part of the title of YOUR thread. Terrorism is nowhere in the manual you were writing about - that is your SPIN and also the same SPIN on the blog you linked to. That you chose to repeat it is the precise issue. You are not content to let the facts be judged on their own - you can't help but put your negative bent on it. Do you think I care that you don't approve of my reading list. Do you think I care that you are upset that people don't buy into your bullshit? Do you think I care that you are upset because not everyone will read everything you post and link to? As for my posting in this thread. I was posting about your anti American tone. That is something I have read all too much of. I did not need to read the manual to comment on your constant effort to make America look as bad as possible.
I didn't think it was relevant, and in fact it was rhetorical. Obviously, my reading time is finite and I cannot read everything. However, I try not to criticize others without reading their posts or their source links. I know I'm not perfect. I don't own the blog, and I didn't make the blog post. However, I did quote it, and even prefaced the title with the blog acronym. Why are you continuing to point fingers when your criticism of me has been rebutted, and yet it's just more strawmen? You claimed I added to the facts, but admit yourself you didn't look at the facts. So how can you make a comment like that with any honesty or integrity? I don't see how any of this is relevant. You're still dodging the meat of my rebuttal. When our government publishes a field manual that promotes terrorism in foreign countries by our troops and agents, I don't have to do much to make us look bad. Read the summary. Read this link http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/print/1/displaymode/1098/ What looks really bad IMO, is that people refuse to take responsibility and OWN the problem, by working to fix it and make the country better. Willful ignorance and laziness only contributes to the problem, it doesn't help it.
I did not realize the "LRC" was to indicate that it was the blogs title. I do not read that blog and I was not familiar with the LRC term. Regardless, you adopted their title for your thread. It was not just a post of their blog, it was your thread with your title. Anyway, who cares? I am not trying to convince you that you have an anti America tone to your posts. That is merely my opinion. It the parts of the wiki link I read, I see things that can be interpreted in different ways, which is why I would want to read and better understand the purpose and use of the manual. This passage provide an example: Psychologically pressuring the HN [Host Nation] counterpart may sometimes be successful. Forms of psychological pressure may range from the obvious to the subtle. The advisor never applies direct threats, pressure, or intimidation on his counterpart Indirect psychological pressure may be applied by taking an issue up the chain of command to a higher U.S. commander. The U.S. commander can then bring his counterpart to force the subordinate counterpart to comply. Psychological pressure may obtain quick results but may have very negative side effects. The counterpart will feel alienated and possibly hostile if the advisor uses such techniques. Offers of payment in the form of valuables may cause him to become resentful of the obvious control being exerted over him. In short, psychologically pressuring a counterpart is not recommended. Such pressure is used only as a last resort since it may irreparably damage the relationship between the advisor and his counterpart
When it's dishonest and without any basis. The facts you claim to have posted have been refuted many times, by myself and others with clear documentation to show otherwise. As such, I view it as dishonest rhetoric without foundation and have taken the time to refute them numerous times. It's things like that, that make me view someone as anti-american. When they are trying to purposefully assign blame to a country they reside in, even after they've been shown to be incorrect. So very true. I once offered $100 via paypal if anyone could produce a thread that guerilla started, that was positive about America. As you can imagine, no one ever claimed that $100, despite that fact that he has created hundred(s) of threads here. Ceaseless criticism of America and Israel, always the first to make a post of "allegations" against "our" (not his) troops, and always the first (if he can beat AGS) to defend terrorists. Couldn't agree more. Some call him on it, others give him a complete pass with a slap on the ass because that's their agenda as well. I disagree completely. While I'm sure you feel you have no choice but to defend him, because he suckered you into being a RP supporter, I've never seen him post anything positive about America. I've seen him post many things positive about enemies of the US, those that want to harm the US, those that hate the US, etc, but he doesn't have anything to say positive about America. In fact, when negative news is lacking, he'll go out to unscrupulous sites like counterpunch, lewrockwell, prisonplanet and other whacko sites to produce something. Doesn't matter if it's factually correct or not, as long as it's filled with hatred for America. And it's very clear to most of us what you believe in. Does your family know what you do all day? Does your wife know how you spend your day, bashing America, while she's off earning a living? Many do just that. They counter the dishonest things you post to tear America down. If you don't like being corrected, perhaps you should consider posting something honest for a change. Perhaps they don't care about all your anti-americanism and anti-semitic posts? Deflection? Can't stand the heat? Making things up again? Interesting...like a few others here, you'll stand your ground and defend yourself from the obvious, but you'll never stand up for your country. That's a bit self-absorbed, isn't it? Not anymore than you would like being called a terrorist supporter. When you insult "my" country (not "your" country), you insult me. When you lie about "my" country (not "your" country), you are lying about me. As such, your posts are offensive and clearly designed to be. People get banned for highlighting the truth about islam here, but you get a free pass for insulting Americans with dishonest propaganda on a daily basis that is insulting to many. I'm sure "you" make many others here completely sick, to be living in such a great country that allows you to sit around and criticize it all day, every day, while your wife goes out to earn a living. That's the problem with first and second generation immigrants. They suffer from an identity crisis with a sort of hidden hatred that their parents brought them here. Perhaps it's time to go home? Your justifications for terrorists, your justifications for Iran threatening to wipe it off the map, your justifications for claiming you don't blame terrorists for killing Americans, your justifications for calling the military "purveyors of genocide" then pretending you care about them when convenient for your argument...all these things are what I dislike about you and I'm sure others as well. Like the ones in Iraq...terrorists killing innocent Iraqis and you giving their credit away to the US military? Yeah, that's about your style. That's guerilla. He wants to be able to trash America, every day, in every post, and he wants everyone to agree with him. He doesn't want to be called out, questioned about his motives, or explain his hatred for America. In other words, he wants to steal the freedoms others have died for him to have, in order to trash America, but he doesn't want to be accountable for his use of those freedoms. Some things never change. Glad I don't have time to sit around and read his ceaseless BS about how bad America sucks every day and how great terrorists are
Look at the history of "School of America" where USA has trained foreign killers and tortures for decades, so they can be more effective in torturing and killing their own people. School of America Watch US army torture manual
Oh then it must have been us Americans who taught the Russians how to torture their own prisoners. http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...77&q=russian+prison&ei=ksdcSMn_FoHk4AKPlpzmDg
It seems you were so desperate to defend the torture that your link is not even related to the subject and talks about the bad condition in Russian prisons. You know that American prisons are not ideal places either, don't you? And what is your point anyway? Is it that Russia and USA are as bad as each other or USA is better because Russia is worse? Read the links in my previous post, it is about US sponsored school that teaches torture and killing of political oppositions in different countries.
US's prisons aren't nearly as bad. The violence in US prisons is inmate on inmate. That's a lot different from institutional torture of your prisoners. And the reason I brought it up is because I don't see the reason to limit all the bitching and negativity to the US. If it's off topic I'm sorry. What is the point of this thread; to show how evil the US is or to just show evil in general no matter what nation? Maybe I should create a thread dedicated to bitching about every other country besides the US?