After experimenting with affiliate networks, I have come to the conclusion that a lot of them simply make money off you. Meaning, if you generate leads/clicks, most of the time they would not show you. They simply take your lead. Once in a while they let you make money but rest of the time, it ends up in their own pockets. Think about it... do you seriously think they are genuine in how $ is shared between them and you??? Absolutely Not. Those who are Professionals in affilaite marketing such as wicketfire.com guy and jeremy shoemaker of shoemoney.com and few others, does make money off affiliate network.....cuz they are part of these affiliate networks. They teach affiliate networks how to make money. They are the kings of this business. Yet for you and me who look at the list of $/lead of $40/lead or $20/lead .... we can only dream. I have spent a lot of $ on adwords, I have not slept for days optimizing it, learning it, playing with different companies.... and sometimes asking friends from various part of the world to convert for a lead.... it barely gets registered in their system. Also.... from credit card to skin care to ringtones.... if these were genuine companies with good crediblity.. they wouldnt want affiliate networks to promote them. Why would a ringtone company pay you $20/lead. The only thing a user of your site would do is..enter his/her phone number and u make $20 bucks. HOW MUCH ARE THEY CHARGING THAT POOR USER WHO HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE / SHE is getting into. This is a form of fraud and I certainly am taking a nice clean exist from such networks because of its immoral practises. From stealing my leads to making money off innocent and novice web users .....
Need an affiliate program which sites' convert and they always pay? I'm willing to give my word for it. Check the 2nd link in my signature.
lol... this is what it says on ur site "For every conversion (sale, lead, phone call) you make, we will pay you up to $300. To make it even easier, we provide you with everything you need including marketing tools, free websites and 1on1 support." Anyways... when people have their website advertised in their signature, its an attempt to gain some google ranking and traffic... good sites don't need that
** Cheers I enjoyed your banter, and I can relate to you in a small way - however will say that not all networks are scams, and not all offers are scams (though many, many, many, many << enough yet? MANY are!). *I've been a publisher for a while and I've had both my own and my clients product lines hit through just about every single CPA from CB to CJ to AZ to SAS to SR to AV to indies to blah blah - and 90% of networks are pro merchant, affiliates rarely stand a chance in this game and are restricted/watched like prisoners/penalized for nothing/monetized quickly/overpromised etc etc. Half the times it's the merchants that the networks let through their doors, the other it's the networks themselves... This may put me under a bit but what do I care, I make a very generous living from my operation and most of it is through ClickBank. << Yep, most bigger affiliates may laugh at it, or quietly never admit that they too milk the CB market, but it's one of the, if not THEE safest goldmines for both pubs and aff's. As a publisher, I get quite the no hassle treatment and my affiliates are easy to train/keep happy - I'll be honest - the rest of the aff sections in here seem to be FILLED with corruption and scammed out posts/screenshots/unrealistic payout expectations, and probably the biggest haven for focused independent affiliate programs that have one aim in mind - $. Wish you best of luck mate - it's not as crazy as you make it out to be - you went extreme, and perhaps you've been through the extreme... .. ... Keep truckin' though, many here and abroad are quite successful with many networks, you simply must find where you fit in best, and strike with stealth. But first, yes, you should probably get away from all networks and re-evaluate how each works, poke your head into a few you haven't, and broaden your marketing objectives (leads are one of many types of programs/offers - it all comes down to YOUR marketing - don't worry about others, as this is a shark pool indeed and you will see things that your morals won't accept nor let you do to make a few $, which is good karma imo NC.
Agreed.... Most of companies charge too much to user. like $1 trial..... or only shipping charges.. Mostly visitors order due to free trial .... but they never read their conditions.... most of them send first product free... but second month they will send you your product without asking... becoz you given your cc there.... all of these in terms.... Green rep... Send me list of your tried networks. I have some too.. Will join under your reff link.....
I don't even bother with the smaller affiliates unless I have heard from a number of trustworthy people they are legit, I am not into wasting my time and money and then never get paid in the end but I would say the big companies are mostly legit, obviously they have to make money as well but what they promise is what they give you and if your moral fiber really gets to you about selling someone something they don't really need then maybe this game isn't for you.
im sorry but you are way off here. If affiliate networks were just out to screw affiliates they wouldnt last long. Affiliate networks do make money off you because they take a percentage of the payout the advertiser is willing to offer. I make plenty of money off plenty of networks. Yes some are better then others but most are fairly honest. Its the advertisers themselves you have to watch out for,
Cant agree more! Most big companies are transparent and honest about the sales. As an affiliate, it is easier to promote better known companies as well!