The Top 10 Reasons YOU Should Be Voting for John MCCain

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  1. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #161
    Barry Goldwater was against the CFR and Trilateral Commission as well. Does that mean that Barry Goldwater was a "moonbat"?

    I don't read Fort Tyranny. It's all neoconservative, racist, hate propaganda.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #162
    Another ridiculously silly lie.

    You don't read because you don't read. If it ain't on YouTube, you aren't going to be able to access it.

    The top blog post on Fort Liberty right now is all about the racism of the "Ron Paul" cult.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #164
    It's pretty funny that you're so willing to tell lies that any rational witness can so easily see through. :)
     
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    Clear Presence Media Well-Known Member

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    #165
    Why is digital point filled with all of these liberals. Do you realize that Obama wants to raise taxes on the highest tax brackets, raise captial gains taxes 10%, raise dividend gains taxes 20%, raise minimum wage, and a whole mess of other things?

    Seriously, let him say whatever he wants...I dont care what anyone says as long as they support a decent economy, which is why I vote republican.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #166
    #1 Where are all these liberals at?
    #2 Yeah Bush has done such a great job at the economy.

    How about voting for the person and not the party?

    :rolleyes:
     
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    LogicFlux Peon

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    #167
    That's a lot harder than it sounds. I honestly can't decide between the two even though there are clear differences. I probably won't vote at all but I'll still have a hell of a time in the meantime.
     
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  8. Will.Spencer

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    #168
    They all registered as Republicans in order to vote for Ron Paul. :rolleyes:

    Life isn't black and white. Although George hasn't done much good for the economy, "not much good" is far superior to the horrific damage that Obama is planning.

    One is usually just a shortcut for the other. After all, except for the Paulistas, most people belong to a political party because they believe in the ideals of that party. :rolleyes:
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #169
    Right off the bat you go with your 'loony' ranting on RP.
    I primarily vote Republican, if I am anything I am 'Republican' yet I voted for RP.........

    While I do not support Obama one bit, I love how people can claim that Bush hasn't done anything that bad or 'not much good' yet claim in the same breath that Obama will be worse before he even has a shot at it. Making this a reason also is yet again picking the lesser of two evils based on the two party system and not standing up and voting for a person who will actually do this country some good NO MATTER what party he/she is affiliated with.

    I don't think either candidate is a good choice, the point here however was 'voting republican' not the 2 choices we have for president to support the economy.


    Not every party member including those holding office and running for office 'believe in the ideals of that party' or support the ideals of that party.

    G W Bush 'for the weapons ban' 'big government' 'spend, spend, spend' and the list goes on.

    'most people' last I heard also do not belong to a party as they believe in a party wholly, there are A LOT of outright independents and center leaning members of both parties who will change votes based on the candidate and not the party in a heart beat. It's actually a pretty small minority who have their heads so stuck up their asses that they do not care about anything truthful, any actual facts and only support the 'party line.'

    Again with the 'Paulista' crap, I voted RP and I'll do it again. I myself primarily vote republican, always have.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    #170
    The point of a debate is pointless as I could make an educated guess which way that those who are strong advocates for McCain voted in 2000 and 2004. Anyone with just one of their five senses intact could tell that they are not a good judge of leaders.

    So I guess the Republican message is now, well things are bad but if you vote for the other guy then they will be far worse, hence saying this is the best America can do.

    I cannot subscribe to this, because it just seems so un-American
     
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    #171
    Common sense is now un-American? :rolleyes:

    You don't get everything you want in a President, so in anger you decide to vote for the worst possible choice?

    And y'all wonder why people think you're a bit loony.
     
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    #172
    So you are admitting that you think this is the best that America can do?

    I mean if it is just "common sense"
     
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    #173
    Bowing down and not standing up for what you believe in by taking the lesser of two evils IMO is extremely un-American ;)
     
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    #174
    These are the choices that we, the American voters, made.

    Now we must choose between two men.

    One asshole who thinks he's a Republican and another asshole who wants to be the next Joe Stalin.

    Not voting is a vote in and of itself. Inaction has no moral superiority.

    Making a poor voting decision does not qualify as "standing up for what you believe in" unless what you believe in is the destruction of our democratic heritage. :rolleyes:
     
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    #175
    Voting for the lesser of two evils is not a 'poor voting decision?'

    :rolleyes:
     
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    #176
    BS. That's so much crap. That the majority of idiots have punished a minority of intelligent voters, and the intelligent principled voters will just have to suck it up because that is how democracy f***s us.

    So stupid. Not only is it immoral, it's illogical.

    You might accept bad legislation, bad taxes, bad politicians, bad wars and bad government in general. But I won't. And a growing number of people will not. All of you summertime patriots can keep talking about appeasement and gratitude towards corrupt masters, I'm sure you'll tell your grandchildren what a hero you were once everyone else has done the heavy lifting.
     
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    #177
    Speaking of common sense, I mean I am no economist but cutting taxes and then starting a war that cost more than all other U.S. wars combined. Is this the common sense you were speaking of? But yet I see the old group think still is pushing tax cuts, who is going to pay for it, the bill will come due someday..
     
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    #178
    Exactly. The alternative is voting for the greater of the two evils. How smart is that? :rolleyes:

    Not voting is the same as voting for the winning party. There is no moral superiority in inaction.

    I must agree with Gandhi when he says "You may think your actions are meaningless and that they won't help, but that is no excuse, you must still act."

    Welcome to democracy. You're just grumpy because no one wanted to elect your crazy messiah. Deal with it.

    Who are you going to assassinate now kid?

    What are you going to do about the fact that the entire world doesn't give a damn about your crazy conspiracy theories and your nutball political ideologies?

    Face it kid, reality is rolling over you whether you "accept" it or not. You can fall on the floor and kick and scream until you cry yourself to sleep, but unless you actively do something to "not accept" the American political system you "accept" the American political system by default.

    You are accepting the system right now. Even as you sit in your room seething in anger, you are accepting it against your will.
     
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    #179
    I don't think either are evil. I like them both but for different reasons. I like Obama more as a person though. I think McCain is sort of an asshole but I don't think he'd be a bad president.
     
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    #180
    If more politicians were like Ron Paul, America would definitely not be in the condition it's heading in.

    LOL I wouldn't doubt that either.
     
    webwork, Jun 22, 2008 IP