I hate dreamweaver.

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by ecksit, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. #1
    I'm trying to do something so simple and Dreamweaver always does something weird to me.

    Here on this page >> http://www.yiiie.com/directory

    The text is spaced SO far apart. Dreamweaver automatically puts paragraph tags on each new line. I don't want that. How can I make each line spaced less? I want the 'Free Credit Reports' text directly under the Finance heading, and then the url right underneath the anchor text.

    PLEASE HELP. Dreamweaver is so weird.
     
    ecksit, Jun 18, 2008 IP
  2. digital_sc4rz

    digital_sc4rz Guest

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    #2
    Use <br> tags :D
     
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  3. ecksit

    ecksit Peon

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    #3
    I am an idiot.

    I was using </br> instead of <br/>

    I'm going to kill myself now.
     
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  4. Enmar

    Enmar Active Member

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    #4
    Also known as Shift + Enter in Dreamweaver.
     
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  5. digital_sc4rz

    digital_sc4rz Guest

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    :) Least you got it -- Thats the main thing! :rolleyes:
     
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  6. BANAGO

    BANAGO Active Member

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    #6
    My advice of all is: learn to code yourself, dreamweaver and other WYGIWYS editors are not for web professionals.
     
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  7. r0bin

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    #7
    I agree with BANAGO. Actually the only thing you need is notepad (or an advanced version of it for easier use).
     
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  8. yourwish

    yourwish Active Member

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    #8
    I think now you dont hate Dreamweaver ;)
     
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  9. skript

    skript Active Member

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    #9
    From my point of view Dreamweaver is more for beginners. I use notepad++ (it is a free editor that supports several programming languages and highlights the syntax - give a search on google) and I code the html or xhtml from zero. This is the only way to code the page with the tags you really want.
     
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  10. ecksit

    ecksit Peon

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    I know really basic html, so I'm not some kind of web professional or am I trying to be. Dreamweaver usually makes things faster and easier for me haha.

    Until I forget how to use a break tag. :(
     
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  11. guidyy

    guidyy Active Member

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    #11
    You probably also forgot that you need to close tags.
    Your page is full of errors.
    line 43 column 114 - Error: required attribute "alt" not specified
    line 45 column 22 - Error: end tag for element "br" which is not open
    line 46 column 6 - Error: end tag for element "br" which is not open
    line 48 column 7 - Error: document type does not allow element "center" here; missing one of "object", "applet", "map", "iframe", "button", "ins", "del" start-tag
    line 55 column 13 - Error: end tag for "th" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
    line 52 column 8 - Info: start tag was here
    line 55 column 13 - Error: end tag for "tr" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
    line 51 column 6 - Info: start tag was here
    line 55 column 13 - Error: end tag for "table" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
    line 50 column 4 - Info: start tag was here
    line 55 column 13 - Error: end tag for "div" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
    line 49 column 2 - Info: start tag was here
    line 55 column 13 - Error: end tag for "form" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
    line 48 column 8 - Info: start tag was here
    line 55 column 13 - Error: end tag for "center" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
    line 48 - Info: start tag was here
    line 55 column 18 - Error: end tag for element "th" which is not open
    line 56 column 49 - Error: document type does not allow element "th" here
    line 61 column 49 - Error: document type does not allow element "th" here
    line 66 column 10 - Error: end tag for element "tr" which is not open
    line 67 column 9 - Error: document type does not allow element "tr" here; assuming missing "table" start-tag
    line 92 column 7 - Error: end tag for element "div" which is not open
    line 93 column 6 - Error: end tag for element "form" which is not open
    line 94 column 8 - Error: end tag for element "center" which is not open


    Dreamweaver can help for an overall look at the page structure, look and feel, but you need to code properly anyway.
    Little hint: put you styling into an external css file.
     
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  12. 007c

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    #12
    Even tho that's true and the best way of learning it's less productive specially when someone is using css imo.
    Also not everyone can spot w3c errors and cross browser issues on the fly.
     
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  13. Autodidact

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    #13
    I don't know a web professional that doesn't use Dreamweaver (or something like it). The difference is newbies build pages in 'Design View' and pros use 'Code View'.

    I do agree absolutely that people need to understand what the code does and need to be able to open a page up in Notepad and make a change if necessary. Programs like Dreamweaver should be tools that make you more productive, not crutches because you don't know how to do it any other way.
     
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  14. webmindz24

    webmindz24 Peon

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    #14
    Yes.. Dreamweaver usually makes things faster and easier... but if you can have strong coding knowledge with good designing skills in Dreamweaver that will be great.. Using </br> instead of <br/> seems u have very less knowledge of coding..
     
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  15. awatson

    awatson Active Member

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    #15
    My only experience with dreamweaver was helping a client use it a couple years ago. It seemed like a big pain to me, ended up having to teach her how to use an ftp program just so she could get what she needed done. It kept trying to do so much "behind the scenes" that it confused me and I've been hand-coding sites for ten years now.

    Give me vim and I'm fine.
     
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  16. MattC1983

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    dreamweaver frustrates me... i always use textpad, find i can do whatever i want with the page then.
     
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    #17
    I've never really understood the "I hate Dreamweaver" crowd - used in code view it's just like a text editor, but it color codes for you, which assists in spotting bad code, and it also has validation tools built in. Using these items helps reduce the amount of time spent coding, even if only marginally.
     
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  18. gringo

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    #18
    either learn to code or go the open source cms route - saves time and money if you do ;)
     
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  19. AzureLimit

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    #19
    Yeah I agree with the people who say that DreamWeaver "Design View" is terrible. The code view, however, is very helpful. But since you said that you typed in </br> instead of <br />, I think that you are using code view.

    If you haven't done this yet, inside of DW go to the top menu and choose View // Code View Options // and check Highlight Invalid Code. This is always a big help for coders are are not pros quite yet.;)
     
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    No. The code Dreamweaver produces is dreadful - full of mistakes and accessibility issues etc... it's bloated as hell and is totally useless for any professional website.

    It's similar to custom Flash embed code - total crap, too.
     
    risoknop, Jun 19, 2008 IP