need peoples opinions , plus the legality side views of this

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by RedLightDistrict, Jun 16, 2008.

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    i run an international PTC site. i offer paypal, alertpay, and RME for purchases and payouts.

    i really dont have issues with paypal and RME (revolutionmoneyexchange) becasue with paypal you can see if the user is verified before you send payment, and with RME you have to be 18 in the first place and provide social security number to even use them and they are for USA residents anyways.

    here is the problem, as most of you know, alertpay makes it very easy for underage kids to create accounts and use them without being verified, in fact you can make business alertpay account and use it without being verified (how stupid is that?:rolleyes: way to go alertpay!)

    so my question is what do you all think if i made people that wanted to cashout with alertpay give me some kind of ID proof that they are at least 18 years of age? it would have to match the info they filled out in profile on my site when they registered;)
     
    RedLightDistrict, Jun 16, 2008 IP
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    Most people who use PTC sites are going to be under 18. If you make your site where you have to be over 18 and provide proof you will loose alot of your users.

    Will you get into any trouble for paying under 18s? If they said that they were over 18 I dont think you will have any problems.
     
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    RedLightDistrict Peon

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    trust me i wouldnt care to lose the kids, and yes when you make lots of payments to unverified paypal accounts you tend to get into trouble, paypal locks lots of accounts that operate like that
     
    RedLightDistrict, Jun 16, 2008 IP
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    You could absolutely have problems for doing this. If you're operating a PTC site then you are in effect hiring your members as sub-contractors to work for you. That makes you an employer, and as such the responsibility to ensure that everyone working under you is of legal age is completely on your shoulders.

    The "he lied to me about his age" defense will not hold up. It's your responsibility to ensure the legal status of anyone you pay money to for services, period.

    @RedLightDistrict, I wouldn't even trust a user's status with PayPal or RME, ambitious kids can get wrongly verified if they really want to. If you're going to go through the step of having some members (using alertpay) provide age/identity verification, why not just make that a policy across the board for all members and cover your backside completely. That's what I would do.
     
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    RedLightDistrict Peon

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    yep your right, i dont fully trust just because they happen to have a verified paypal account, this trend is becoming quite a nuisance to us adult webmasters everywhere, kids using mommy and daddys paypal account and using fake alertpay accounts, and also your absolutely right, its not at all an excuse to say oh well they lied about their age, paypal would not listen to that at all.

    im almost debating just becoming an LLC company and have actual form to fill out like when you apply for publishing networks like google, in which you have to provide ALL YOUR INFO social security number ,..etc...
     
    RedLightDistrict, Jun 16, 2008 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    Plus you could send out docs to sign and only activate on their receipt. Yes, it adds an overhead to your operation but if you are serious about your business and in it for the long haul it will be worth it.

    By posting to a street address you are verifying that the contact details given are serviceable (or possibly even authentic, but mail services do exist) and you have a hard copy signature to present in court.
     
    sarahk, Jun 16, 2008 IP
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