I think I'd call those folks "Americans." They are the folks, or the descendants of folks, who decided to quit fighting the English and wander off to something better.
Hehehehehe... Well, I for one am happy that they came to the new world and left the senseless battles of Northern Ireland behind. I wish that more Muslims would leave the senseless battles of the Middle East behind. Let's set a good example for them by not killing each other senselessly. Perhaps one day they will come to the conclusion that they can be happy even if they graciously decide to allow the Jews to live in peace.
If Iran was serious about not wanting war they would stop threating to blow Isreal off the map and would stop all attempts at building nukes.
I don't think that the Iranian government really has a choice. The Iranian government is a theocracy and their holy book demands that they make war against the Jews and the Christians. [9:29] You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - among those who received the scripture - until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly. It is unreasonable to expect the Iranian theocracy to reject the demands of it's god just because we would like them to.
It was israel who threated to wipe of map Iran, It was US who threated to return Iran to stone ages. It is israil who has nuclear weapons, it is US who has nuclear weapons
What I find so funny about this thread is the side track that Israel took over Arab lands. I thought this post was about Israel and Iran. Or maybe, finally, muslems here are willing at last to admit that they are the "Nation of Islam" in the truest sense. A religious region without borders in the traditional sense. If this is finally so, then they will also have to admit that we are at war with all radical muslems irregardless of borders. They can't have it both ways. If the discussion is about Israel attacking Iran because of their nuclear position, then it is not about the Palestinians. If it is also about the Palestinians then attacking Iraq because Osama Bin Laden was stupid enough to try and re-arrange New York City's skyline makes Iraq a fair target. How do you radical muslems like us Texans, New Yorkers, Oregonians, etc... We sure can shoot, no?
Not many things stays the same for ever. Arab nations are also learning the art of buying American politicians and pouring money in American politics. I estimate in less than 10 years, USA will support Arabs or at least pro-Arab American politicians will force the pro-Israel politicians to a stale mate.
Will your so full of disinformation its hillarious. How did this iranian government come into being? yea its our american government and british government in 1953 that decided to mess around with the iranian peoples destiny , by basically secretly taking out their popularly elected president who was peaceful against the state of isreal and america and we put a monarch in his place(the shah) who was never elected. I know you dont care much about the iranian people or the truth because your stuck in this flag waving never-never land where the rest of the world is evil and our government is full of saints. Wake up so someone can have a decent truthful conversation with you for once. Yes im saying we are responsible for this current iranian regime being in there i know you would never debate me on that because i have a skilly little thing called FACT to back up my assertion. When someone posts so biasedly they can never face the truth. The truth will set you free will, try it sometime instead of half truths and half pictures.
i don't think palestanian living in the occupied territories want to live like this for another 10 years. also i think that this 10 years wasted is much worse than the gains that it might produce finally this is a decision that can be made when they will vote on the final agreement.
you have a very faulty way of thinking. and this way of thinking has brought us the current situation. iranians and israelis cooperated with each other when khomaini was alive.
I understand your desire to be Gandhi but even in India the Britt would never give them independence if it was not because of the Arm struggle and the danger of long term guerrilla warfare. Gandhi was only the lucky guy to be in the right place at a right time and even then they screwed them by dividing India to 2 countries.
I started this thread so I think I will close this too... Israel backed and renounced what Mofaz had said...no need to argue anymore..all wants peace.
you think that palestanians should wait 10 years and try to buy the American politician to help them with their struggle. yes that is very logical. even to that end my way of peaceful approach works better.
israel has tried to get the US to do iran since 2001 and maybe before.Sharon also ruled out any attack on iran. i think it is a chicken game more than anything else . Whatever the plan is, it has been a failure.
The problem is that you don't understand the real world and you think everything is a misunderstanding and if they just be nice and talk to each other, then they can kiss and hug and make up. People go tho war for reason and each side has objectives that they try to achieve. The only possible solution for peace is if one side destroys the other or they come to a point that is costing both sides too much and they are in a stale mate, so they make an unhappy truce. As long as Israel has USA, it is not going to cost them enough to desire a solution but at the same time they can not totally destroy the other side. Palestinian cannot quit fighting either because they haven't got anything and despite their losses, they have no one on the other side to make a truce with. The only real hope for "peace", is that sometime in future, USA will not or can not support Israel anymore and then both side will be ready for the unhappy truce that both can live with.
i think the time is now. i think because of the rise of iran, US is looking for a solution to this conflict. So there would be an unhappy truce but if not an opening for palestanians to shed their image as a terrorists . This would be necessary if you expect any public support in US
It really doesn't matter what USA wants or if Palestinian get public support in USA. When it comes to question of Israel, USA government is just a puppet of Tel Aviv at present time, so the only thing that matters is what Israel wants. At present time they are happy with situation since they are holding all the cards, and honestly if I was in their place, I wouldn't talk either. as I said before, when the reality and situation changes then they will act accordingly and will opt for some kind of truce.
Yes palestanians have to address the anxiety of the israelis about security. Peaceful approach is better for that. The advantage for israel is the financial benefits of peace. that is the approach that will ultimately produce the best result. Just look at south africa and the evolution of mandela. Palestanians have to change from danger to inconvenience.