Why do you believe in God?

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Do you believe in the existence of a SuperNatural Force, a Supreme Being?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #41
    It's called being grounded in reality guerrilla, You should try it some time instead of being a fantacist.
     
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    #42
    If reality is hatred, statism, war, theft and violence, then yeah, I got my head in the clouds.

    Your "reality" is merely the product of being the 3rd or 4th hand dealer of ideas. You only know, what you're told to know and you never ask why.
     
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    #43
    Like i said, A fantasist. You base your reality on what you would wish. To you, something is true on the grounds of you really really wishing it was. It's an infantile fantacy entirely detached from reality.

    quite the opposite. The people i listen to specifically advise people to think for themselves, They specifically advise people to question and they specifically advise people to form their own conclusion on the available evidence. But like i say, A fantasist isn't interested in reality, They construct an alternative world where anything they imagine is plausible, Anecdotal evidence is all they need and things are true based on them wishing it were.
     
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    #44
    If believing (and working) for peace and freedom is fantasy, I stand guilty of the charge. To say that peace is "an infantile fantasy", only highlights your nihilism.

    Who advises you on spirituality? On philosophy?

    Who advises you on morality? Justice?

    My small and angry friend, the lack of imagination and creativity are the accusations I made, and you have just confirmed them. There is a difference between anecdotal and a priori reasoning.
     
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    #45
    I didn't say peace is an infantile fantasy.. You claimed i said it and then heroically knocked down your own straw-man argument. Like i say, A fantacist who has his own alternate reality based on how he wished it to be.

    Nobody advises me on those issues. I listen to what people say, the evidence they present and i advise myself. No doubt you get your advice from "the little book of do what Ron Paul says".
     
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    #46
    Yes, if ghosts existed I would believe there is some sort of extracorporeal existence, but it wouldn't imply there is a god as well.
     
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    #47
    It would most likely prove a supernatural force though.
     
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    #48
    why 'force'? it could be that every individual has an extracorporeal existence, but not that there is a 'unifying' force. Perhaps it could be said that such a discovery would extend the limits of the 'natural' world.
     
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    #49
    I don't know...it's just what I call it.
    And possibly, yes. Like another dimension...if you think about it - maybe.
    We just can't comprehend it.

    To understand comprehension a decent example is to imagine a monkey that sees an airplane. He doesn't know what it is - he probably just thinks it's a big bird.
     
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    #50
    and it is comforting to the monkey to believe that the big bird is there to watch over them and making sure they are safe. One of the smart monkey will then start telling every monkey that the big bird spoke to him in dreams, and that he has compile all of those instructions on pieces of banana leaves, he then jumped off a cliff but promise them he'll be back someday.

    the monkey friends then start collecting and rewriting instructions on the banana leaves in one big stone for next generation to see and learn, as monkey are not perfect, intentionally or not, they have put their own interpretation as well into the stone. fast forward hundreds of years, now the stone is sacred.
     
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    #51
    Here are some pictures of ghosts. Here is a dog ghost, creepy guy ghost at a bar, lady ghost, and ghost lady in the corner. They have a bunch of ghost pictures on this website if you go to home page. Here is some ghost video footage here, and here. Read about the ghost of Hampton court. Spooky.

    :)
     
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    #52
    First, you have to ask yourself what God is... If you need a supreme power which will help you to answer a question that your brain can't, you may find the answer in God.

    I'm so unlucky, well that is just faith.. (no it isn't, it is just a bad day)

    God is a way of runaway from questions that you can't find an answer. God is the simplest way to end worries. God is the need of the power which is greater than yourself.

    God is a dj :)
     
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    Satan sure is clever to give people this notion.
     
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    #54
    Of course there is a God and I belive in Him.
    Do you really think that we are nonsense in this world? Everyone has a meaning in life, and I'm not talking about women, drugs and money :D
     
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    #55
    If a human does have a spirit, soul or energy that lives past the point of physical death of the body, I agree any living being should have one. If it were a spiritual essence or pure energy it would not be the same existence as with a physical body. A human soul or spirit would not need to eat food without a human body. It would be the same with TB, aids, cold sore viruses, why would they need to infect or have a host body to eat if they are just some sort of consciousness or energy? You are completely logical, and perhaps it is irrational, but I do tend to believe in ghosts and the possibility of some sort of life after death. It could be simply wishful thinking on my part, of wanting to exist longer than the time I have, I don't know.

    However, believing there may be some sort of energy or soul that lives past physical death does not necessarily translate into believing in heaven or even G-d. The way most religious people present heaven, somehow seems to be vulgar. As if G-d is watching us get raped, tortured and murdered from above and doesn't lift a finger to help. Then we die, he takes his favorites on off to his exclusive club in a gated community and burns the rest in hell. The ones that make it to heaven can sit around for all eternity praising G-d forever and ever in what would seem like an incredibly boring existence.

    I'm not trying to insinuate that heaven or G-d exists, all I'm saying is I wonder if I could have some spirit or consciousness after my physical body is dead.
     
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    #56
    It's an fascinating discussion subject, but other than our desire to be true there is no reason, indication or evidence for that.
     
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    #57
    Bingo :)..........It's the only visible force.
     
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    #58
    I don't necessarily believe in classical Christianity but I do believe in a "god".. my evidence is empirical. You can see his/her handiwork all around you IMO. I don't believe creation was an accident of natural forces.
     
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    #59
    I found an interesting article about a doctor who has studied after death experiences with children. He doesn't really believe in G-d, but he does seem to believe in some type of after life. Here is an excerpt of that article:
    Here is the whole article
     
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    #60
    I am an atheist and have always believed there is no omniscient or all powerful being, just science. Despite this I am all for people who enjoy religion. If religion makes you happy, why should you not believe in god? What REALLY pisses me off are atheists who talk down to people with religious beliefs thinking them inferior. If religion makes you lead a better life than how is that a bad thing? If someone only restrains from stealing or doing other crimes because of the fear he or she will go to hell, then good for religion.
     
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