I have already told you this, Old testament. All holy books are worthless pieces of history that do not have any connection with the way people live their lives. What has the bible taught you that common decency hasn't? Always use a condom ;-) tolerate gays ;-)
no not really, i didn't read it. lol This is one of the top sites listed in google in islam. All i'm saying is go to the original sources instead of targeting untrained minds who do not have the knowledge to answer your demands. After doing your research then sure, do whatever you like. EDIT: you are wrong. Quran and Bible do teach us about everyday life that science has not, and this has been proven. Google is your best friend.
Yep, when you were trying so hard to blame all religions equally for the way islam blows things up, you couldn't find anything in the New Testament. Have you found anything since then?
Sorry I've neglected this thread, this is an old quote, but nevertheless I wanted to respond to it likewise: Reputable statistics eh? Wow, do you not watch the news? I think the fact that 99% of terrorist attacks are in the name of Allah, proove that statistically. I dont see christians blowing them selves up.
Another quote I must comment on. lol, mistermix, are you lacking in education? Religion is the very foundation of our civilizations. The laws setup by our goverments weren't encouraged by anything else BUT religion. Lets say for example, that religion didn't exist in the past, that we missed the boat on that concept: We wouldn't have laws, or traditions, OR ANY means of conducting ourselves in an oraganized matter. A world without religion, is a world without goverments, is a world without organization, is a world in choas. Hence, everybody has been influenced by religion, or we'd be randomly screwing each other like monkeys. And this poll is pathetic, you people should be ashamed of yourselves for not knowing your history, and denying the truth before you.
You only have to look at the reaction to the Danish Cartoons to see that Islam is the most violent religion in the world today (I don't give a shit about past religions/actions). The Muslims can't even take a fucking cartoon in a paper without going and killing hundreds of people and looting shops. What's worse is that they turn around and discriminate against Jews, while they are killing Christians for saying that Mohammed is a terrorist. I mean, who cares? I wouldn't go out in the street and kill people and loot shops if someone said that all atheists are terrorists and immoral etc... I mean, atheists have one of the highest rates of discrimination in the world LOL, think I care? "The laws setup by our goverments weren't encouraged by anything else BUT religion." - LMFAO, the founding fathers of America wanted religion and politics to be COMPLETELY separated and they made this quite clear. Looks like someone is lacking in education. Although I don't disagree about religion influencing morality etc... A world without religion is NOT a world without government and you have no evidence on which to base this claim, you have no proof unless there is a world without religion. "Hence, everybody has been influenced by religion, or we'd be randomly screwing each other like monkeys." - Pfft, go and read up on your Darwinian evoloution. What you just said goes against every principal in the book of science. Religion HAS influenced us, and we may have used it for some sort of survival technique tens of thousands of years ago, however it is not needed now and we would not be "randomly screwing each other like monkeys". Most retarded thing I've ever heard...
Islam is violent with aggressors, they do not turn the right cheek, the above post mentions cartoons, somebody may cry "but they are just cartoons, they did not kill anybody", thats true, for you they are just cartoons, for them its not, for them a football match in Italy that caused riots and killing, is just a football match, for the ones who did these riots and killing, its maybe something else, for somebody with ill intension these riots over football are "Christian violence"
You continued defense of murder over a cartoon speaks volumes in spite of your protestations that Islam is peaceful.
where did I start the defense of murder over a cartoon, and where did you see me continuing it here? I assume you think I am defending the riots that killed a cop in Italy over a football game?
You are a comedian. Dang, this is one old thread and one late response from me. If you are still on DP, show me where Jesus encouraged violence in the Old Testament por favor.
There's a lot of violence and terrorism coming out of North Africa and the Middle East and most of the people in the region are muslims. So it makes you think.
Where have you been! Tears of Jihad Monday, March 3, 2008 These figures are a rough estimate of the death of non-Muslims by the political act of jihad. Africa Thomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] estimates that 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and 14 million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East. For every slave captured many others died. Estimates of this collateral damage vary. The renowned missionary David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached a plantation, five others were killed in the initial raid or died of illness and privation on the forced march.[Woman’s Presbyterian Board of Missions, David Livingstone, p. 62, 1888] Those who were left behind were the very young, the weak, the sick and the old. These soon died since the main providers had been killed or enslaved. So, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have an estimated death of about 120 million people. Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa. 120 million Africans Christians The number of Christians martyred by Islam is 9 million [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-10] . A rough estimate by Raphael Moore in History of Asia Minor is that another 50 million died in wars by jihad. So counting the million African Christians killed in the 20th century we have: 60 million Christians Hindus Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. [Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 2002, pg. 34.] The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus.†80 million Hindus Buddhists Buddhists do not keep up with the history of war. Keep in mind that in jihad only Christians and Jews were allowed to survive as dhimmis (servants to Islam); everyone else had to convert or die. Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India. The total is roughly 10 million. [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-1.] 10 million Buddhists Jews Oddly enough there were not enough Jews killed in jihad to significantly affect the totals of the Great Annihilation. The jihad in Arabia was 100 percent effective, but the numbers were in the thousands, not millions. After that, the Jews submitted and became the dhimmis (servants and second class citizens) of Islam and did not have geographic political power. This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad. Islam killed all these people and you say they treat people with kindness?
I think you're wrong about this. I distinctly recall the Reverend Louis Farrakhan mentioning that the Jews were responsible for the entire slave trade which, in turn, eventually is what helped them create and own Hollywood as we know it today.
Boom. And why can't they just admit it? Heck the IRA admitted they were violent, but they said they were violent for a cause. We may disagree with them for their violence as we may disagree with many Islamics for promoting their own religion fueled violence, but we must ALL outright condemn them all, any of them who fail to stand up against it's current wave of violence. They are cowards, and potentially racist cowards despite their claim to the Higher Ground. But please, get your heads of the sand if you believe there is no violence in the Quran. This is the part that scares me more than the violence itself... the indoctrination of it. The blind obedience ot it. The violent teaching of it by so many of their hate-filled "teachers."
lol, i always hear about people saying the Quran advoacates unprovoked violence but they can never provide the verses? If you are going to make a claim like that, provide your proof. You sound like one of the many people who have read a newspaper and immediatley assume Islam is bad because you saw planes flying into the twin towers. Everyone needs to stop being so ignorant
I have the Quran in front of me in my admittedly small library, right next to the Book of the Latter Day Saints. I like to call this my "Religious Fiction" section. These verses have been so often proved I will not waste my time re-reporting them. Maybe some imams misunderstand then, when they encourage youths, pregnant women, etc to blow themselves up while killing innocents. What parts of the Quran do you think they're misinterpreting?
Ah yes, of course. The typical "I have the Quran in front of me but i'm not going to post any verses because i can't find any ones that promote unprovoked violence"
Yes, exactly. But, again, which verses in the Quran do you rthink causes so much confusion then in the minds of all these imams who preach violence and death that has their "students" blowing themselves up all over the place, killing innocent by-standers. Are their Quran's different from yours?