BREAKING NEWS!: Yahoo responds to Carl Icahn's letter

Discussion in 'Yahoo' started by Germz, Jun 5, 2008.

  1. mooseweb

    mooseweb Banned

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    #21
    They most likely will, MS makes the 100+ billion mark yearly, and Yahoo isn't even close to that



    ^ From post above ^

    Great news because once it does Google will actually have some competition, I don't even use Google anymore, it's near to not pointless with all their scams.
     
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  2. worldman

    worldman Notable Member

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    #22
    Google is a search engine first and last. They fail miserably at almost everything else. Even their Android phone buzz is dying down. The simple point is not everyone is ready for opensource yet. The iPhone made this point clear. People still like quality products that are managed by reputable companies.
     
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    #23
    LOL, Nice letter, good response from Yahoo.
    I have no Idea who Carl Ichan is, But I think that unless he is a major share holder of Yahoo, then he should keep his nose out of Yahoo and Microsoft's business affairs.
    He most likely had most of his money tied up in MS shares in anticipation of this takeover, and now has sour grapes because the deal didn't happen.

    And to close!

    Ha ha.. What a classic :D

    Cheers
    James

    EDIT: PS, nice blog
     
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  4. worldman

    worldman Notable Member

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    #24
    I think Yahoo is just trying to play hard to get. They have nothing going for them yet they act as if they are about to sign a billion dollar deal with some other company. Only other company who would take on such a troubled company as Yahoo is Google. And that CANNOT happen.
     
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    #25
    the same old debate....

    do whatever you want to...but you won't win over google...

    as simple as it can be!!
     
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    #26
    Many shareholders are mad at yahoo for not selling. Personally I think we are all better of if MS keeps it's greedy little fingers away from Yahoo. Although this is my personal opinion, I believe it is only a matter of time before MS buys Yahoo.
     
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  7. tattoos

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    #27
    Nothing wrong with that, sounds like a good CEO looking after the best interests of the company, employees and the shareholders.

    How much is it worth?

    LOL, with all due respect, you make it sound as though MS are doing Yahoo a favor.
    Microsoft want Yahoo for a reason, and it ain't cause there a troubled company..
    It all comes down to what they are prepared to pay.. If MS think its to much they just walk away, like they have done..
    Obviously MS don't think Yahoo is worth as much as the CEO of Yahoo thinks its worth.. But time will tell :D

    Cheers
    James
     
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    #28
    Interesting! I don't know if the Yahoo-Microsoft merger si certain but I would say it is likely considering that it is probably the only way that anyone could compete with Google at the moment. In addition, I do believe that this merger will be good news for everyone including webmasters. I wrote an article about this after Yahoo had rejected the deal and Microsoft backed-off.

    Why the Microsoft and Yahoo merger makes sense for webmasters and web users

    Cheers!
     
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  9. Lovely

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    #29
    I know the last have not being hear after Microsoft withdrew from the bid...
     
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    #30
    I really hope it doesn't go through. I have a feeling MS will mess with Yahoo too much and render it unusable.
     
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    #31
    Intresting
     
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    #32
    I agree. They should play hard to get but look, they scared Microsoft away and almost got their CEO kicked out with lawsuits by shareholders who are tired of their stupid business skills.

    The web has moved on and too bad that Yahoo helped to create a monster they cannot keep up with.


    Yahoo is not work anything more than $44 billion.


    Microsoft is not a troubled company. The only trouble they have right now is in the search engine department.

    With all the bad reviews on Vista, Vista sales are still high and more and more people are converting to it every day. In fact Mac has not gained many users since Vista released.

    Microsoft's mobile department is still as strong as ever. More and more companies are moving away from Symbian and embracing the Window's mobile platform which is exactly what Microsoft needs if they are going to continue to grow in the wake of Andriod and iPhone.

    IE is still the king and shares have not been slipping recently. In fact since IE7 was released IE7 has been holding its ground against Safari, FF3 and Opera.

    Yahoo is alreayd crap. The only search engine that is worse than there's is Live (except for Live video and photo search which trumps even Google) and ASK.com.

    The worst that could happen to Yahoo is they stop losing money if they merge with Microsoft.
     
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  13. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    #33
    I was pretty pissed off at Yahoo also and I agree with Icahn, they had fun messing with people’s heads then backed-out. I hope he at-least convinces them to even consider the option but I doubt anything will change this year and I doubt if the representatives of Yahoo care about their name they would fist-out with Icahn over the next few months or ever. Google is only good with their search engine and nothing more. They would have to establish themselves in the markets they’re venturing into deeper because all they do is use their search engine fame and standing and think they can just jump into any niche.

    Nevertheless I agree with Icahn but I really don’t think this will have any impact other than making Yahoo! Reconsider the whole deal. The strategists at Yahoo! Obviously doesn’t see that this is a smooth way to get out now because Google has already established the dominance of being the big search engine and MSN can invest more and put more efforts in competing. This is like a middle-class pet owner with one slowly dying animal and not enough money to support it, refusing to give it up to the wealthy billionaire animal-keeper/owner with a customized zoo in his backyard.

    (but...he doesn't have too, most people would say he should!)
     
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  14. ShaneC

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    #34
    What more does Google have to do for webmasters to be successful? I don't get it. What exactly did Google do to make a webmasters life harder? It's about as easy as it comes.

    You can't be serious. Google is more than a search engine, it's also the biggest advertiser in the world, and the leader of all internet technology by a very very very large amount. If it failed miserably at everything it's stock wouldn't be over $500. Google Earth, YouTube, and Blog Spot, remember those?

    By the way the new iPhones coming out are rumored to be open source because of the demand for third party apps. Facebook, and Myspace also went open source.
     
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    #35
    I wonder what will happen.. interesting story
     
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    #36
    Thanks for that info mate..

    no, um, I meant... there is a reason why Microsoft wants to buy Yahoo, and the reason is not because Yahoo is a troubled company.!

    And yes I agree with your statement about Microsoft's search engine department.. and I will add.. It's Crap.

    Thats why I think that Yahoo should play hard to get.. Yahoo "has" what Microsoft "need" to turn there crap engine into a half pie decent enough one to be able to compete with the big G..
    MS has got tons of cash.. and they will try again.. they have no choice.

    Cheers
    James
     
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    #37
    Tell me one thing Google has done to make a Webmaster's life easier!

    You said Google stock is in the $500. That is true but its still a joke on Wall Street because every wise invester knows that stocks like that can tumble overnight (think AOL, Yahoo, Amazon and Netscape). There is no collateral in their stock. They have no phisical goods to back it up.

    You're talking about Google Eart, YouTube, Blogger, FeedBurner, Double Click and BlogSpot. Notice something about all those Google devisions. THEY DIDN'T MAKE THEM!!

    Those were all companies they bought out. And ever since Google took over YouTube and FeedBurner people have been complaining about the quality of service.

    The only thing Google invented was a better search engine. Everything else they bought or copied from someone else even their Android phone was not ccreated by them.

    And I don't know where you've been getting your news from but its easier for us to find life on mars than for one of Apple's products (including the iPhone) to go openseource.

    I couldn't agree more. Micorosft used to be a king in the search engine field. But they forgot about their product and someone else came along and took it over.
     
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  18. ShaneC

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    #38
    Google gives webmasters basically everything but the algorithm.

    Any investor that calls the Google stock a joke is probably classified as mentally ill. Physical goods have little to do with anything when it comes to the internet. Stock prices are determined mainly by profits, and growth. Amazon is floating around it's all time peak. AOL, and Yahoo were basically crushed by the rise of Google.

    You said Google is a search engine first and last. That's far from true. Just because "they didn't make those companies" is not a legit argument to back up your claim.

    Not only did they invent a search engine, they took over online advertising. Online advertising is a billion dollar industry which is only going to continue growing, that's why Microsoft wants Yahoo, the search is only a small piece of the pie. All in all it comes down to the advertising revenue.

    I said it was a rumor, I don't know if it's true or not. I know someone who is really into Apple products, and works at a Apple store. He was talking about it. Apple does such a good job of locking up it's secrets it is almost impossible to find any news on any products. Either way this whole open source thing is very new, and I wouldn't call it a failure, it's just evolving right now.
     
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    #39
    Internet stocks on Wallstreet do not carry any weight. Just ask some stock brokers and see what they say. The companies that carry weight are companies who can backup their stocks with collateral. Companies like Microsoft, Ford, GM, Fidelity, etc....these companies all have tangeble goods that can be sold if the company crashes. Google only has a couple buildings and a ew servers.

    I'm not saying Google did not buy these companies. I'm saying webmasters who say Google is an innovator are lying cause all Google has been doing lately is buying out the little man. Tell me one original product Google released last year. Not one.

    Advertsing was around way before Google. All they did was come up with a way for the small websites to make money.

    And as I said no one can tell me one thing Google has done that was directly benificial for webmasters.
     
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    #40
    What you think is rational in the terms of a business, has absolutely no common ground with the stock market. If a company collapses, the stock will drop, selling goods after the company goes under will not do anything for a stock holder. Again it's 95% growth, and profit, and little of anything else.

    If Google isn't the innovator then why is everyone chasing them? I don't think you understand the level that Google is at above the competition with their technology. You say all they do is take other peoples ideas, or buy out people, which is correct. However, they take others ideas and do 1,000,000,000x's better with them. Look at Gmail compared with Yahoo, and Hotmail, it's not a competition. Adwords is probably the most advanced advertising platform by a mile. Adsense is still untouchable with the related ad's it serves. Yahoo, and Microsoft still can't figure out how to serve targeted advertising. Look at Google Health, even though it's under fire, it's still an innovation.

    If no one can tell you what they have done to benefit webmasters, then why don't you tell me what they COULD do? I mean they already pay people enough to not work a regular job. Fourteen year olds are making money from Adsense for God's sake. Webmaster tools is great, I don't know how much more they can give you. It's no secret what it takes to get on top of Google. Traffic=$$$ it's simple. What do you want them to do, hand you money for doing nothing?
     
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