Bush: Secret plan to keep Iraq under US control

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  1. #1
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...lan-to-keep-iraq-under-us-control-840512.html

    Dying gasp of the Republican neocons now that Hillary has apparently been defeated.

    One has to ask the question, why would one need immunity if one did not commit a crime?

    So how do people feel about permanently being in Iraq, maybe forever? Given our looming financial crisis, is it just me, or does this idea seem totally insane?

    Give the article a read. The end part about the geopolitical realities in Iraq (which you will never hear on MSNBC or FAUX News) is important to better understanding the situation.
     
    guerilla, Jun 6, 2008 IP
  2. guru-seo

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    #2
    They need immunity because they will ALWAYS commit crimes! It is precisely these kind of back door deals that make us hypocrites and gives the rest of the world a reason to hate us. It is so obvious that through our interventionists policies we are making more and more enemies around the world and less and less friends. We went from being some would argue one of the most respected country in the world to one of the most hated right up there next to Israel. Shameful.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #3
    Check this out guru...

     
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    #4
    Lol ...this plan is not a secret ..everybody know that his strategy is to keep Iraq under his control ..
     
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    brownkiwi Banned

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    #5
    Interesting a SECRET deal is somehow published meaning its not so secret. And maybe not even legit.
     
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  6. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #6
    It's only secret because the domestic media does very little to criticize or expose anything the government is doing. The domestic media are the ones who helped the Pentagon sell us the war.

     
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    brownkiwi Banned

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    I hope you are joking. What media have you been watching because I have never seen the media be nice to the Bush admin or anything about their policies.
     
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  8. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #8
    In the runup to the war, the media totally sold it to us. A recently as mid-last year, Fox was advertising War with Iran, as though it was a virtual inevitability, despite the fact that there was not, and is not any evidence indicating the Iranians are able to produce any sort of nuclear weapon.

    Read Glen Greenwald on Salon.com.

    He's been chronicling the media on his blog for some time now.


    Even though he is much more progressive than me, I really respect him as a member of the left with a lot of integrity and curiosity. he doesn't get caught up in mindless partisanship, I've seen him take shots at Bush, Obama, Clinton (Slick Willy and HllDog). So refreshing to have a journalist who is obsessed with discovering the truth, not with maintaining insider access.
     
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    brownkiwi Banned

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    The media isn't what sold me the war. One would have to be dumb to get persuaded through the media. I tend to turn the crap off because it is so ridiculous.

    And Glen looks good. Glad to see somebody who will attack both parties.
     
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    #10
    for me its no secret, since very long before this article is published, it takes no effort to know:

    from links with Al-Qaeda, to WMD, to "fighting them over there so they won't fight us over here" to liberty for Iraqi people, some of these reasons came after "Mission Accomplished" without they really being stable on what is the mission, until now it seems unclear, so its not hard to understand that they are there, to stay, and only by force they will get out regardless who will win the elections.
     
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    #11
    US does not have any permanent bases, anywhere.
     
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    brownkiwi Banned

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    #12
    Coming up with a new goal is not really a bad thing in war. We took Saddam out. That is one goal down so we made new ones like stablizing the country. People act as if us having a lot of goals over there is bad when it really isnt
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #13
    Aren't you the poster yesterday who recommended we dump the old people on social security into the street so we can keep murdering Iraqis?
     
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    #14
    Yea that's him.
     
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    #15
    The goal did not change ever my friend, or did not come as a new goal after the war started, what is bad is to use lies to get people's support for a war which has a goal else than the goals that been told to them.
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #16
    Iraq can be 52-th State of USA or new colony :rolleyes:
     
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    #17
    I cannot seem to recall saying I want us to murder an Iraqis. Please feel free to get an exact quote where I said I want us to do that.
     
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    #18
    Its amazing that we even have one pro (lie of a war ) supporter on dp lol.
    All of the facts point to a deception and instead of being outraged the last few neocons keep on supporting a war that is slowly being turned into a permanent occupation. Havent the iraqi people and our soldiers suffered enough???????????
     
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    #19
    This is not secret anymore.

    USA lost 3 trillion$ and gonna losoe at least 2 more before getting out. so it has to stay long long time to get some cash back otherwise its a complete failure.

    USA using those suicide bombers to make , show and keep iraq unsafe for time being.
    Because when iraq get safe and people get a decent life then they wont attack witgh gun but with stones which is more powerful :D

    Thatt time USA wont stand much chance , because international critisizm will grow and grow.

    imagine hundred thousand iraqis coming to street shouting against usa and throwing rock at them.
     
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    pizzaman, Jun 15, 2008 IP