Read what Matt said carefully; "Google TRIES TO reset pagerank/links for all expired domains to zero when they are registered by someone new". I've always managed keep my expired domains' PRs, and I have done this with tons of domains.
In any way and form there will be scammers, when we find out how to deal with this problem they've found another way to scam other people. I said it before, we should have 2 internets one for us and one for the scammers for us just "internet" and for them "scamnet" that way they're happy and they can scam themselves. Don't understand why they would cheat, it's easy enough to make money online these days. greetz, jobic
Many PR domains dropped doesn't usually loose their PR. I had a valid PR5 dropped I bought a few time ago and it was a PR6 in the following update. You can never tell. The sandbox was a theory used for Google Domain reg. The trick is to get domains with enough backlinks. Build a good site. Never sell links only atleast after 1 Google Update. Why? Most probably PR will go to zero as more outgoing links than incoming. Those selling links just after buying are scammers becoz percent to go to zero is higher than 50% in some cases people can also be lucky...
a good tool to use is checkpagerank.net it will tell you if the page rank is real or fake, how many backlinks the site has so you can judge for yourself if the PR will remain in the next update and it also shows you when it the domain was last registered. i never buy a site or domain without checking it there first. yes there are a lot of people out there trying to scam you, but with due diligence, and education others you can reduce the risk of being scammed.
Some other ways of checking , use Google backlinks , where are those links going to present pages or past ? If past pages ( that no longer exist ) , then forget it , the true PR it is valueless from that point on (remember in spite of what these guys tell you true PR is not the green bar, and is page specific only, not domain specific ) The Yahoo backlinks are not reliable because you can in theory get fresh backlinks to show in few days and so in theory appear to have an accomplished site that is in fact a few days / weeks old
I don't flip sites (so far) but I will buy an expired domain, with page rank if I can afford it. However, before I do, I check the links to make sure they won't disappear. Also, need to make sure I can set up web site with similar content. With the Firefox SEO tool, I look at the links and make a decision whether they will evaporate by the time I get the domain. If the links seem to be sticky AND if the links that pass the page rank are still there, I'll buy the site. When I set up the new site, I'll 301 redirect any pages that have rank and are cached in search results, to similar pages so I can keep the PR. Since funds are limited, P4-P8 are usually too expensive. P3's seem to have a good value. And, you can usually build on the page rank. So, it depends on what the purchaser did, and how he or she intends to proceed with the site. Not necessary a scam, you have to look at the current back links - many blog and article backlinks are dated, and make your own decision.
I bought a PR 3 for $10. I think it just slipped through cracks, but a lot of people don't pay attention to PR 1-3 sites. Depending on whether it has edu backlinks, and is in DMOZ, expect to pay anywhere from $40 to $215. You can find a few PR 6's for under $500. But the amount of sites on sale and real value of the sites is always changing and that affects the costs also. I noticed when there were a few PR7 and a lot of PR6 sites on sale, the price for all other PR's fell. Now that there aren't many high ranking PR sites on sale, the PR5-3 have gone up in price.
Fine. Only bought a few, they don't need help. It's my other sites that drive me crazy. I have three sites that I developed and never put Adsense on...because that wasn't my main focus when I made the sites. They are PR1, 2 and 3. At one point they were all PR4's, I abandoned them for about 2 years because of RL. It's about quality links, original content and not pissing off Google. I also parked a bunch of sites years ago - I liked the names, so I bought them - and now I'm developing them. Like I said, I'm not in the flipping business, nor do I sell links, so I'm taking a long term view. I hate MFA sites. I've been working with Adsense since February and fumbling my way around driving traffic. It's been a learning experience. No more sites for a while until everything I have is fully developed. 26 sites is a little much and I'm looking into automating all the processes.
Totally wrong. I've successfully purchased numerous expired domains from TDNAM and as long as they are not redirected none have lost PR. I've even bought a few domains that were redirected and they maintained PR (but not guaranteed). Then again, if you have 70-80 domains like I do, it's a snap to toss some BL's at an expired domain and even if it *was* redirected, you'll still have the PR. Even more simple, All you have to do is look up the domain+extension in Google and if it returns a different domain+extension (ie: xdomain.com returns xdomain.org) you know it's been 301 or 302 redirected. This is very common when a company buys the .com, .net, .org, etc and redirects them all at one main site. Those type of expired domains are a goldmine because 9times out of 10 the original owner wants them back. Same here... I buy them through TDNAM (GoDaddy) and the domain will still show it's original registration date - hence - all the people in the domain selling folder stating "6 year old domain with PR4".... Here's a clip of the info for a PR4 domain I bought through TDNAM in Feb. It was expired, but look what the whois says for the creation date.... Updated Date: 08-feb-2008 Creation Date: 28-dec-2004 Expiration Date: 28-dec-2008 As long as the creation date is not modified, it is seen as an original registration. I've even bought a few that were listed in DMOZ and Yahoo Directory.... If I were selling the domain I showed the clip for, I could honestly say, "4 year old domain with PR4, listed in DMOZ". Personally, I'd never exchange links with anybody who posts to the link exchange folder here.... I don't know how many times it's been said but if you want to exchange links, do research and find sites in your niche, contact the webmasters and exchange links that way. Well, I guess that's enough useful information for me to pass on... except, yes, I do use a script I wrote to find the (PR3+/DMOZ listed) domains