US accused of holding terror suspects on prison ships

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by guerilla, Jun 2, 2008.

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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/02/usa.humanrights

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    Rendition is pure evil. Of course, you can count on the domestic media not covering this, or the Reprieve report when it comes out. The majority of Boobs have no idea what is going on overseas, or by their government in their own name, and how it makes all of us less safe.

    Some folks like to say Clinton was weak on terrorism. Rendition is a Clintonian program. They kidnap you, then they isolate you until your mind breaks, or they ship you to Syria where you are beaten and raped by guards until your will is destroyed.

    If you're lucky, you get dumped naked on the streets of a place like Morocco, with nothing, no one, and a demolished psyche.

    Nice hunh? Anyone wanna tell me how proud they are of this?

    Oh btw, did I mention that several of the people sent for Renditions (that we know about) were civilians, they are guilty of nothing, except being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
     
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    So, you know someone is involved in a plan to kill thousands. You are saying you won't torture that person to gain the knowledge to save your family or thousands of other people. Get realistic. These people do not deserve anything but torture. They kill women and children in the name of god.

    What is worse is that the overwhelming majority have a deep hate for anyone who is not of their culture. Have you not seen interviews or read the articles where they interviewed well to do people who were educated and lived in the west and still believe that it is their duty to kill anyone who is from the west.

    Come on, get real. America has more diversity of culture than any other country in the world. There is more freedom of every kind in this country than any place on earth. Their whole argument against the america is flawed and wrong. But, yet they all believe.

    It just goes to show, they do not want peace of any kind and get what they deserve. Everything ends up an argument of religion to the terrorists. Their own religion actually is against murder, especially against innocent women and children. Terrorist have manipulated their religion to make their murder o.k.

    You are worried about torture of a few that can end up saving millions. Get real.

    It is unfortunate that a few innocent people get caught up. Gladly sacrifice one to save the many.

    What do you think they do when one straps on a tnt belt. One sacrifice to kill many innocent.

    If you don't think we are at war you are mistaken. Europe has seen more than it's fair share of bombings and needless killing. If you think torture is not being done by every nation you are very naive.
     
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    Can we start with your kid?
     
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  4. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    This is very sad.

    Sacrificing the one for the many is how tyrannies are built.

    It's the sort of rationale that people in Nazi Germany used when they shipped Jews and homosexuals to death camps.
     
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    With these kind of tactics we keep making more enemies and give people around the world more reasons to hate us. Shameful!
     
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    guru-seo Peon

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    WOW. Your logic is so wrong I don't know where to begin.
     
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    torture is wrong and counterproductive.I hope we can start rebuilding of our values when we elect a new president. I deas like yours is why a lot of people are disappointed in our govt actions. All you have is just excuses and excuse is a sign of failure
     
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    I was waiting for posts like "Stop it guys! ", but I read dlbott's post . This is very sad
     
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    The logic applies to more people when this one word changes
     
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    Wasn't this a movie last year? Are there actually accounts of this stuff happening or is it conspiracy theory type of stuff?
     
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