Iran and there Jewish population.. 20k - 40k of them alive, in Iran...

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  1. slinky

    slinky Banned

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    #61
    You still haven't told the world what it's like to be a Dhimmi or second class citizen. It's almost as good as being black in a redneck town 200 years ago... but hey... nobody "forced" the Christians or Jews to leave right? :D

    This is from the BBC - and it's about as good as it gets for Jews in Iran. Pathetic. I'll start listening when there is a democracy in the Arab countries and the people expelled or forced to go by horrific treatment get their land back. It will never happen and people like you will claim that all these Jews, Christians and other people that used to live in the middle east just left because... well... the cost of living was cheaper in Oklahoma City. Until fair treatment for all happens and some kind of democracy, quit whining about the Palestinians' rights and look in the mirror as to how you are treating others. Perhaps the Iranians can give the Palestinians the Jewish lands in Iran? Or perhaps Iran doesn't want to take them in either?

    "Mr Ahmedinejad has repeatedly used rabid anti-Israeli rhetoric - slogans like "wipe Israel off the map" - and most controversially he has questioned the number killed in the Holocaust during World War II."

    "But there are legal problems for Jews in Iran - if one member of a Jewish family converts to Islam he can inherit all the family's property. Jews cannot become army officers and the headmasters of the Jewish schools in Tehran are all Muslim, though there is no law that says this should be so."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5367892.stm

    As I said, I feel bad for the Palestinians because many of them are mislead and looted by their own corrupt leaders (see Arafat) and it seems that the rest of their brethren don't want them either except as a pawn to push Israel off the map. It must not be easy growing up as a Palestinian, being told that the whole source of your problem are those damn Jews (and Arafat is still a deity.) FYI, Arafat's own words were to have Palestinians create more children than they could take care of to overrun Israel and force them out. Who cares about whether the children can be cared for - as long as the Jews are destroyed, the suffering of Palestinian children by Palestinians is justified. I'm not making it up - go look for yourself and use Google. It's a disgrace. As Golda Meir said - the problem is that they hate Jews more than they love their own children. But I haven't heard any of you human rights activists in the rich middle east taking them in and giving them jobs. Instead I hear that Iran never mistreated the Jews, doesn't mistreat the Jews or anyone else... what's next? They love Americans? The denial of any wrongdoing is absurd. This is why there will never be peace.
     
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  2. imad

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    #62
    Being Dhimmi is different than second class citizen, second class citizen is relatively new term, while Dhimmi is much older, and those who been living in Islamic country at a time when this term was used, seemed to be very pleased with it, as I did told you what it means in another thread, read again here if you missed it

    the myth about expelling Jews from Arabian countries been also discussed in that thread, you do not expect UK to implement Sharia laws just to please the Islamic minority, you should also not expect Arab country to westernize just to please the Christian and Jewish minority ;)

    oh really? are you sure he said "wipe Israel of the map"?

    The "Wipe Israel Off The Map" Hoax


    If the world did not want the Jews and treated them badly, what has the Arabs to do with it, it was Europe's antisemitism that made the Zionist leaders ( see BenGurion-Weizman-Ahad-Shamir...etc of the terrorists) decide to steal the Palestinian land and establish a home for the Jewish people in it.

    The problem, is that Zionists occupied Palestine, anything else, is just a try to divert from the real problem, Palestinians, either in occupied lands in 1948, or occupied lands in 1967, or outside, have never forgot their land, and their right of self determination, they are resisting, and they will keep resisting, till they get back their rights, you can call it antisemitism, you can cry "they want to kill all Jews", you can use whatever propaganda, but that, does not change the fact that the Zionists, expelled Palestinians from their land, and occupied it, they love their kids, thats why they teach them not to accept injustice, and aggression, generation after generation, they been able to drive occupiers out, since crusaders, and keep on their faith and culture, that you do not like, as much as they do not like yours.
     
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  3. browntwn

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    #63
    Are you dizzy? The spin you keep putting on about Iran is really pathetic.

    You would have no problem with the leaders of Western countries calling for Islam to be wiped from the pages of time?

    It is so transparent, do you think we are all so stupid to buy into the bullshit rationalization you put on what he said?
     
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  4. Mr_2

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    #64
    ahmadi nejad never said he wanna whipe out judaism.
    just for the record :rolleyes:
     
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  5. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #65
    Iran has a very clear position on Israel, the more you deny and try to distract from it the more you look like a complete fool.
     
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    #66
    slowly, before moving to somewhere else, do you read the post before you reply to it usually?

    I m not speaking about Iran position on Israel, or Israel position on the rest of the world, I was asking did he really say "wipe Israel off the map"?
     
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  7. Mr_2

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    #67
    don't get angry when you run out of logic kid.
    its not your fault those corrupt medias brain washed you and pumped to your head hatered.
     
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    #68
    There will never be peace as long as you not ready to admit history facts and keep spreading your BS propaganda. Zionist did came to Holy land with guns and took land by force expelling 700,000 Palestinians from their homes and stealing their land. Now, don't you think that those 700,000 Palestinians won't try to get their land back? Sure, their fight have nothing to do with fact that they were expelled from their homes, they fight because they hate Jews...
    Sorry but your AIPAC BS sounds like fairy tale for anyone that have brain and can use logic.

    Should we quote all zionist leaders and see what have they planned and what have they done in Palestine? And you will again trying to convince us that it's not about ethnic cleansing and stealing Palestinian land.

    'Transfer' (Ethnic Cleansing) Zionist Quotes

    Can you tell us home many countries did Iran invaded?
     
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  9. swaymedia

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    #69
    The only obvious people that have looted Palestine, is the greedy settlement building Israelis.
     
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    #70
    Bahrain has one of the world's oldest and smallest Jewish communities. It was, at one time, home to as many as 1,500 Jews. Today the community has a synagogue and numbers around 50 people.
    it seems that there are jews in bahrain also.
    [​IMG]
     
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  11. slinky

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    #71
    Greedy? See Yassir Arafat, billionaire, Forbes maker. Looted the people out of their own money.

    Quit blaming the Israelis and Jews for everything. As I said, when you're ready to give them back their full rights and land that was stolen in the middle east, then you can start talking...
     
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    #72
    So after centuries of existence with children being born, families growing exponentially, today it has... 50 people? Looks like the community was decimated. Glad to see we have a token ambassador of some sort...
     
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    #73
    it seems that if they have left it must have been on their own accord, otherwise how do you account for them?
     
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    #74
    I do not think he is billionaire, maybe millionaire, he was the leader of FATAH and Palestinians, as soon as the news of their corruption reached the people, they as a movement (FATAH) been ousted in the election which was a beginning for another page in the Palestinian suffer and struggle cos Israel now have a new excuse to practice killing on large scale, now they voted for HAMAS .... "They want to destroy us"

    so as usual no matter how they calculated it, they must lose always, head I win, tail you lose ;)

    and please, remember that keep repeating the same propaganda, does not make it facts:

    Isn't it a fair 'population exchange' between Palestinian refugees and Jewish refugees from many Arab countries?
     
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    #75
    (CBS) Yasser Arafat diverted nearly $1 billion in public funds to insure his political survival, but a lot more is unaccounted for.

    Jim Prince and a team of American accountants - hired by Arafat's own finance ministry - are combing through Arafat's books. Given what they've already uncovered, Arafat may be rethinking the decision. Lesley Stahl reports.

    "What is Mr. Arafat and the Palestinian Authority worth today?" asks accountant Jim Prince. "Who is controlling that money? Where is that money? How do we get it back?"

    So far, Prince's team has determined that part of the Palestinian leader's wealth was in a secret portfolio worth close to $1 billion -- with investments in companies like a Coca-Cola bottling plant in Ramallah, a Tunisian cell phone company and venture capital funds in the U.S. and the Cayman Islands.

    Although the money for the portfolio came from public funds like Palestinian taxes, virtually none of it was used for the Palestinian people; it was all controlled by Arafat. And, Prince says, none of these dealings were made public. source
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    I am sure of you want you will find plenty more support for this issue, but how much he exactly stole from his people is not the point, it is that he stole from his people at all that is the crime.
     
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    #76
    I heard so many estimations before, and each claim that he knows the whole truth, but its as you said, the amount does not matter, even if it was $1 from the people money, its the principle that matters, Palestinians did right in ousting them in the democratic elections, hopefully they too in Israel will learn from this and oust their corrupted prime ministers

    back to the thread topic, do you believe that Jewish people been expelled from Arabian and Muslim countries, and became refugees? so thats why there should be no solution for the Palestinians refugees problem, and thats why the Jews left in Iran been encouraged to immigrate to Israel?

    and whats your comment about Bahrain having a Jewish ambassador? knowing that Israel always call itself the homeland for Jewish people, will Israel consider this ambassador a citizen of Israel too under this claim?
     
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    #77
    Yes, FATAH is corrupt, which is why the people voted for Hamas.
     
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    #78
    Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
     
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    #79
    i have wondered about the iranian jewish population and how they are treated. I think i have found a prety reliable source that shows they are not treated badly. Article is from May 19, 2006 I hope this puts every ones mind at ease about this matter.
    http://www.jewishaz.com/issues/story.mv?060519+iranian
     
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  20. imad

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    #80
    for sure this is not the kind of news that many war mongers like to hear, expect somebody to come and say: "but.. but .. they treat gays badly, they kill them, they should be nuked."
     
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