Hi everyone, Myself quite new here.. I have had some experience on SEO for a while and very recently I came to know of Google sandbox concept. I heard that some say that when a new site it created it remains in sandbox for a while and gets indexed after an year or so.. Again some argue that a new site appears in ranking just after a PR update. Now I have 2 questions 1. Is the sandbox concept true? 2. How much does it take for a new site to appear in ranking?
There are no absolute evidence that sandbox exists. It might through, however you can buy an old domain to make sure. Depends on (age, competition, ibls etc..)
Sharon, I have registered many brand new domain names for clients. With the proper amount of optimization on the web site itself, I have seen those sites appear on the 2nd or 3rd page of Google within a few weeks, and on the first page of Google within a month or so. The age of the domain was irrelevant because of the amount and quality of the SEO work.
Thanks a ton for the replies. They did clear the cloud a little However, "ibls" factor as mentioned by Jaguar.X.05 is not clear to me.. can you explain it a little?
1. Is the sandbox concept true? 2. How much does it take for a new site to appear in ranking? Reply With Quote Yes sendbox concept is true It depends about your competition your targeted keywords and most important on YOU anyway if your are doing proper work on your site then it should be come on SERPS with in 2 months
'Sandbox' is absolutely rubbish concept. It is nothing but a term coined by a marketing guru to create buzz. Its just a linkbaiting.
1. Is the sandbox concept true? - yes, it's kind of penalty that estimates your website relevancy and when it doesn't deserve its current place it's moved on 30, 60 or even 950+ search engine position. 2. How much does it take for a new site to appear in ranking? The website must have incomming links from already spidered websites - this way it'll be indexed on the next Google's database update.
Friends, SERP Depends on Your Targeted keywords and competition of those search terms if there is lots of traffic so sure it will take some time and also it depends on Your website's On page Optimization + Off page Optimization work which you are Doing and make sure to do according Search Engines (Google) guidelines. there is many factors will work on your Targeted keywords so try, understand and cover all the topics which you need to do for your site and after that you can enjoy SERP. its not Easy but also not Hard. So always be patient and work hard in SEO.sure we can get good results. Thanks John
Keep adding content and building links. You'll start getting long tail keyword hits almost immediately. Most sites show up for semi competitive keywords within 4 to 6 months. I don't know if this is due to "the sandbox" or if it simply takes you that much time to create a back link profile that looks good for more competitive keywords. Regardless, add content and build links. Then go add more content and build more links...
Exactly, i couldn't agree more. If you can't get new domains ranking quickly it's time to reassess your optimization strategy. It's a limit on your ability, not a limit within the index.
What time frame do you define as quickly? What kind of terms would you be able to rank for in this time frame (how many results in google, allintitle, etc.)? Just saying quickly is pretty subjective.
Do you Mean if we submit sitemap in google so we can get index in 2 days ? Friend , now its not possible to get index through only G sitemap, Many webmaster are facing problems for index in search engines. there is many factors to get index Quickly in search engines like * Use fresh and Quality content * Get quality Back links * Build Solid title & meta tags *Social Bookmarking can help *Don't launch without content *Point your link in high Ranking blogs, sites and Forums with your signature Now ,If you can do proper steps like these so it will be very easier to get index in search engines. Thanks John
OMG there is so much good here and so much rubbish! Sandbox is NOT an absolute. I have been managing web sites for thirteen years. My team currently manages over 650 professional business web sites for small, medium and large companies all across the spectrum of market focuses. I have over a dozen web sites where clients have paid for quality SEO work - 30 hours in month 1, 20 - 30 in month two and 10 - 20 in month three. Every one of them has gotten indexed within a few days or less when submitting a sitemap.xml file. And every one of them ends up on the first page of Google for at least some of the keyword phrases within the first month. Some of the other phrases can take months and months more work (or not at all due to competitive site issues). but for so many people to say the sandbox is a reality for ALL new web sites is a crock of insanity perpetrated by people who truly do not have any other experience personally and therefore they assume that if it's how SEO has worked for them, then it must be true for everyone. the bottom line IS that it takes a LOT of work, and it takes SKILL at doing an initial competitive analysis and it takes a LOT of focus on determining the best keyword phrases from your customer or your client's perspective, and running keyword usage and saturation reports and spreadsheets. Just the keyword choosing process alone when I do it takes an average of six to ten hours - and I compare data on anywhere from 100 to 1000 phrases just to come up with the best. it's THAT kind of knowledge and dedication and work that is required to not have your site "stuck in a sandbox" but it IS possible.