This is also not legit, he may blow up some bushes and ferns, it is a pity to see them being destroyed along with that perverted being.
There is no legitimate reason for taking ones own life as well as the lives of others.. Unless it is in self defense. I've yet to see anyone take their own life in self defense, outside of those that lose their life in the defense of others, which is hardly suicide.
suicide bombing can not be justified. i belive it is also against islam hence a fatwa to try to legitimize it. i think these fatwas issued by al qada and some others in support of violence, is the proof that these kind of stuff is also against islam. otherwise there would be no need for fatwa.
then why all these fatwas. my understanding of fatwa is that it is new religious ruling to override the current understanding.
Appearances.. Think about it.. Muslims want us to believe that only the radicals are responsible for the death, hatred, terror and destruction... Nothing could be further from the truth. They want to paint a false reality in order to give off an appearance of being quite the opposite. It's a classic diversionary tactic.
you really have a hard time making a coherent and logical conclusion don't you? if someone makes a fatwa to kill some people and you say he does it to look good
No, because Muslims on the most part will claim only the radicals are doing this... That was the point. Sorry I was not clearer.
i explained to you why the fact that some muslem leaders issue fatwas that promote violence are working outside the norm of their religion. they issue the fatwa to legitimize their views. this to me shows that a-they don't belive that the said act is allowed in the normal interpetation of their religion b-their follower don't belive that the said act is allowed in the normal interpetation of their religion and based on this simple logic i argue that they are wrong.
No, what it says is that the Muslim world as a whole seeks to separate itself from this perception that Islams teachings do not require a fatwa to legitimize violence, hatred, death and destruction. What it says is that those out there that want to live by the law of Islam, need to give the appearance that they are some how getting new and or special permission to go above and beyond the religion of peace, so as to keep their behavior far removed from the real reality that is Islam. In other words, the fatwa itself is nothing more than for show.
and isn't this what every body else wants also. i think every one would agree that it is best to isolate the people that promote violance. oh sorry not everyone wants to isolate them you want them to be supported by the 1.5 or so muslems. kind of reckless
What we really need is education. People are taught to be violent. People are taught to hate. Stop teaching them hate, stop teaching them to be violent. Maybe stop teaching Islamic beliefs all together.. Hmm..
again it seems that you can not follow any logical pattern in your conclusions here. we depend on muslems to fight along side of us and fight terrorisim and violence all over the world 20.000 police have died in iraq fighting the terrorists in afganestan we have afgani army fighting alqaida in indonesia same thing and the list goes on. these are muslems fighting terrorists all over the world you feel that they should be helping alqada. whose side are you on anyway? why do yopu insist on disrespecting 1.5 million people.
Sometimes reality is difficult for some to follow... I'll type slower from now on. Ah, not really.. And if not for Islam and all it teaches, those 20,000 would likely be alive today. Now it's 1.5 million? Or is it 1.5 billion? Or is it trillion.. I don't think those that make the claims even know... If I had to guess it numbers in the 100's of thousands if that. Anyway, no disrespect was given or intended. It's a forgone conclusion that Islam teaches hate. To deny that, is to deny that earth is round. The people who do not feel it is violent were bred into it and have lost site of any other reality.
(It's "bred" into it...) I believe Pizza's point respecting "muslim" armies is valid. We intervene in a host of countries, and in those countries, the balance of the armed forces come from a muslim pool. It is 1.5 billion or so, from most sources I have read. I would ask, yet again, that if Islam = hate, why was there no 9/11 over the course of Islam's history? If any unifiying influence exists, Islam would be considered one, as it covers not only religious but civil conduct. 1.5 billion, given mass an impetus to concerted action? Are you kidding? No, I think like most of the world, muslims wish to go about their lives in peace. It took me awhile to get this through my thick skull, post-911, but I can no longer conclude anything other. We've been here before - think WWI, Japanese-Americans, and their internment. We should evolve.
yes haste makes waste. slower and more logical but logic is the real goal here. it seems that you are just as close minded. i have not seen any inclusive and friendly approach by you either. or the christian zionists and the rest of neocons. now how can i prove you are wrong. since we abondened the neocons approach of rumsfeld in Iwreck the situation is getting better. but some people just can't learn.it is better to seperate the terrorists from the regular muslems and we can succeed.try to fight all muslems and we won't
Muslims follow the Quran, right. Where in the Quran does it say that Muslim's are expected to take part in suicide bombing, thanks. Why would they need to pretend? What would they gain out of this appearance? I don't believe any religion teaches hate, violence etc. As this is not what God wants whether you are a Muslim, Jewish, Christian or anything else.
My suggestion? Purchase a copy of the "Quran". Read it... Then come back here and ask the same questions.