Saudi prince: If Israel quits Arab land, it could join Arab world

Myth? Want to talk to a whole bunch of fictional Syrian, Iraqi and Iranian Jews in Brooklyn who can give you first hand info?

And while you're at it, why don't you explain what Dhimmi are?

Regardless of the number, the fact that you don't seem to give much of a damn that hundreds of thousands of Jews were displaced from their own occupation in "Arab lands" undermines anything you have to say about rights in Israel. Essentially you're saying "the alleged snatching from the Jews is in the past and soon it will be swept under the carpet so we can't recall the exact damage we caused... so let's deal with the present of what we want from Israel."

 

I hope you read the article in the link I posted above, since this issue is relatively new, which popped up just to justify Israel crimes, I did some more research about the topic, and here is some additional info, why its myth:

most of the Arabian countries at the time were under the British, and French colonies, this means, they were under the control of these two super powers at that time, so if there an expel that happened to Jews, who would be responsible for it, the Arabs, who did not control themselves at that time to control others, or the ones who had the control?

Bogart posted a map that shows the numbers of Jewish people in Arabian countries, in 1948 and in recent days, but he did not have any mention of Jewish people numbers in the countries who were Israel-friendly why?

its because it will also show the decreasing numbers of Jews in these Israel-friendly countries, which was not caused by the expelling of Jews but by the encouragement of Zionism to the Jews in these countries to immigrate to feed the newly established Israel.

something also missing in Bogart map, which is the intervals, in Arabian countries, and also in Israel-friendly countries, he only had the numbers in 1948, then a big jump to 2005, a refugee flee his country because of panic, but the numbers if shown in intervals, will show that there was no sudden drop in the numbers of Jews but a continuous decreasing since 1948 without stop until 2005. in other words, the Jewish immigration from Arab and non-Arab countries happened at stages, so the newly established Israel can absorb them, and not as a result of war.

Arab Jews themselves, refuse to be called "refugees" here the Knesset speaker Yisrael Yeshayahu declared: "We are not refugees. [Some of us] came to this country before the state was born. We had messianic aspirations."

in the same link above, another Israeli says:

another :

and more quotes you can read in that report, will be good also if you read the whole report,

so, yes its a myth

 

Blabbity, blabbity blah. Yeah, the Holocaust was mostly a myth too in one of your reports. Perhaps you can still explain to us - what is a dhimmi?

Could this be one reason why Jews and Christians "left" Arab countries? I don't recall hearing that the Jews were running to Israel pre-1948 because they heard that they could pan for gold in the Dead sea.

Speaking of history, pre-1948, perhaps you can tell us who was Grand Mufti, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini? He wasn't the guy giving the free ice cream taste spoons to the Jews at the local Baskin Robbins. But he was one persuasive person in letting the Jews know who their friends were now wasn't he?

I don't know who was spoon feeding you the nonsense that the Jews and Christians just left the middle east after centuries of living there because they wanted to pack themselves into a small strip of land...

 

You mentioned Dhimmi and you seemed to know what it is, and like it is something bad, that Muslims should feel embarrassed of it, thats why I asked you to post what you know. since you did not, and since you asked me to do so, i will post an explanation for Dhimmi as "some" Jews understand it:

Hayim Ben-Sasson is a Jewish, who wrote a book called "A History of the Jewish People" in which he mentions:

pp. 404-5

 

Your own words hang you and you should be embarrassed:

"all male non-believers above the age of fifteen had to pay... In return, their lives and property were protected and, in accordance with the general attitude of Islam to infidels, they were assured liberty of faith and worship."

So in essence, the Jews, Christians and other non-believers had to pay a special tax in order to be protected from being treated as "infidels" to Islamic people - subject to what horrors happen to blasphemers and infidels. So what are you saying? That the Palestinians should all be paying the Israelis a special tax so that they can be treated as second class citizens the way the Islamic Middle East treats the Jews, Christians and other non-believers? And those that don't pay are fair game? I'd say the Palestinians have it incredibly good with the Jews and Israelis in contrast to the way the Christians and Jews were treated in the Islamic Middle East.

As I said... a more productive use of time would be to get back to Internet strategies and search engines like is what happens here rather than politics. If you want to talk about Middle Eastern democracy and equal treatment for all people, there really isn't much to discuss.

 

So, for example; if the UK went to war with France and won, the UK could occupy some of their land.

If France asked for their land back, the UK could say exactly what you posted above

It's a bit sad isn't it

 

You didnt understand a thing.

If FRANCE started a war with the UK and uk won, its uks right to hold the land it won

 

You wish that I would get embarrassed, right?

you mentioned Dhimma, although you have no idea what it means, so I quoted the meaning, as Jews understood it at the time, if you know what is Jizya, go ahead, post about it, and if you need more quotes from that book just ask.

 

Anyone every look back on history?

Germany and the Soviet Union Nonaggression Pact of 1939 comes to mind with a deal like this...

History often does either repeat itself, or at the very least, attempts to.

 

its you who understand nothing about international law, of course no, UK then will not have a right to hold the land, it will become an occupying force and will need to withdraw, the last who claimed land by conquest (before Israel of course) were the Nazis.

 

So you are comparing Israel being given back their own land to the conquest of the Nazis? The very people that sought to exterminate the Jews with the help of the aRabs?

 

imad, comparing Israel to the nazis is like comparing a muslim to a dog and you really dont want to get there...

 

I will...

 

This will give the victor the control on the land, but it does not give the victor the ownership of the land, it will be considered an occupation.

source: Israel Law Resource Center

 

If one does not want their land occupied; one should not start a war and lose. Seems pretty simple to me.

 

which war are you referring to?

 

the 6 day war

 

how much do you know about 1967 war? and do you know who started it?

 

You mean who amassed 100,000 troops and 1000 on the border, after expelling UNEF calling for united arab action against Israel or who fired first?