Jews Stole Arab Land [The Truth]

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MYTH​

"Jews stole Arab land."​

FACT​

Despite the growth in their population, the Arabs continued to assert they were being displaced. The truth is that from the beginning of World War I, part of Palestine's land was owned by absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. About 80 percent of the Palestinian Arabs were debt-ridden peasants, semi-nomads and Bedouins.

Jews actually went out of their way to avoid purchasing land in areas where Arabs might be displaced. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, cheap and, most important, without tenants. In 1920, Labor Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion expressed his concern about the Arab fellahin, whom he viewed as "the most important asset of the native population." Ben-Gurion said "under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them." He advocated helping liberate them from their oppressors. "Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement," Ben-Gurion added, "should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price."

It was only after the Jews had bought all of the available uncultivated land that they began to purchase cultivated land. Many Arabs were willing to sell because of the migration to coastal towns and because they needed money to invest in the citrus industry.

When John Hope Simpson arrived in Palestine in May 1930, he observed: "They [Jews] paid high prices for the land, and in addition they paid to certain of the occupants of those lands a considerable amount of money which they were not legally bound to pay."

In 1931, Lewis French conducted a survey of landlessness and eventually offered new plots to any Arabs who had been "dispossessed." British officials received more than 3,000 applications, of which 80 percent were ruled invalid by the Government's legal adviser because the applicants were not landless Arabs. This left only about 600 landless Arabs, 100 of whom accepted the Government land offer.

In April 1936, a new outbreak of Arab attacks on Jews was instigated by a Syrian guerrilla named Fawzi al­Qawukji, the commander of the Arab Liberation Army. By November, when the British finally sent a new commission headed by Lord Peel to investigate, 89 Jews had been killed and more than 300 wounded.

The Peel Commission's report found that Arab complaints about Jewish land acquisition were baseless. It pointed out that "much of the land now carrying orange groves was sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchased....there was at the time of the earlier sales little evidence that the owners possessed either the resources or training needed to develop the land."Moreover, the Commission found the shortage was "due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population." The report concluded that the presence of Jews in Palestine, along with the work of the British Administration, had resulted in higher wages, an improved standard of living and ample employment opportunities.

In his memoirs, Transjordan's King Abdullah wrote:

It is made quite clear to all, both by the map drawn up by the Simpson Commission and by another compiled by the Peel Commission, that the Arabs are as prodigal in selling their land as they are in useless wailing and weeping (emphasis in the original).

Even at the height of the Arab revolt in 1938, the British High Commissioner to Palestine believed the Arab landowners were complaining about sales to Jews to drive up prices for lands they wished to sell. Many Arab landowners had been so terrorized by Arab rebels they decided to leave Palestine and sell their property to the Jews.

The Jews were paying exorbitant prices to wealthy landowners for small tracts of arid land. "In 1944, Jews paid between $1,000 and $1,100 per acre in Palestine, mostly for arid or semiarid land; in the same year, rich black soil in Iowa was selling for about $110 per acre."

By 1947, Jewish holdings in Palestine amounted to about 463,000 acres. Approximately 45,000 of these acres were acquired from the Mandatory Government; 30,000 were bought from various churches and 387,500 were purchased from Arabs. Analyses of land purchases from 1880 to 1948 show that 73 percent of Jewish plots were purchased from large landowners, not poor fellahin. Those who sold land included the mayors of Gaza, Jerusalem and Jaffa. As'ad el­Shuqeiri, a Muslim religious scholar and father of PLO chairman Ahmed Shuqeiri, took Jewish money for his land. Even King Abdullah leased land to the Jews.

In fact, many leaders of the Arab nationalist movement, including members of the Muslim Supreme Council, sold land to Jews.


Long Live Israel !

 

Thanks for some truth and clearing that up.

 

and here is the other side of the story...

A Review Of The Ethnic Cleansing Of Palestine By Ilan Pappe

other side? oh he is not Arabian or Muslim or terrorist, or terrorist supporter, or anti-semitic... etc, he is an Israeli Jew, anyway, he is:

Note:

Edward sa'id also has something to say about it, he is a Christian Arab Palestinian, but do not let the fact that he is Arabian, and Palestinian, prevent you from reading, and researching what he says, cos its true

 

Haha, youre funny.
Ilan Pappé - is one of the "New Historians" who have re-examined and hold controversial views of the history of Israel and of Zionism.
Just check his criticism and youll understand...
The best source you could find?

I feel sorry for you if you cant face the truth like a man and keep being fed by your local propaganda.

This thread was not written for ExTrEmE PrO-ArAbS, but for the normal, educated population.

Again, its impossible to change the mindset of a fool...

(Just to make it clear, I never said you were a fool )

 

its my pleasure, if I am not wrong, you are referring to the quotes in this post only, cos I do not think you read the whole review in 3 minutes, if you did not I really recommend you to read it, but maybe its just me cos I m slow in reading.

 

understand what? and which local propaganda, he is Israeli and Israel is not my country, Palestine is my country, so if it was propaganda, its more correct to say Israeli propaganda

you did well in posting some info regardless that you just copied and pasted it from elsewhere, but still it can be discussed and replied to, which I did, now you can continue if you want to discuss, by refuting IIan Pappe claims, or proving he lied, by showing documents, from the British archive that says contrary to what he said, I m sure it will does you much more better than discussing his person.

 

amazing, I did not mean anything bad, I measured it on myself, I m slow in reading English, it took me about 25 minutes to read it but thats cos I stop to look up some words meanings.

I already know your posts from reading this section, I agree they are of high quality, I may not agree with some of them but this does not change the fact that they are of high quality, and that you can make your point through in a nice way, congrats for that.

 

From Mr pappes interview:
"He noted that the Jews constituted a mere one per cent of the Palestinian population before the Israeli state was formed."

Wrong:
Total (1945)
1,764,520
Muslim
1,061,270(60%)
Jewish
553,600(31%)

Youve just found one fool out of 12 Million.
Im sure youre feeling very, very proud right now.

p.s - checking the guys website www.ilanpappe.org makes one cry...
Can you notice the palestinian flags at the bottom?

 

can you provide a link to that interview you quoted? and what did he mean with "before the Israeli state was formed" 1947 is before the Israeli state was formed, so is 1847...

till then, here is another fool to keep me feeling proud

 

Here is the link:
Cheap entertainment

I think he ment the day when he went to an arab village and started counting.
The were 100 villagers and himself (A jew) so here goes his 1%

He ment the few years before the state was formed (1945-1948).

Another one? Thanks! I can give you ten more if you want.
(Peoples opinion can change instantly)

Dont you have anything better to say?

 

thanks for the link, very useful info indeed, I read it, here is the paragraph:

the numbers you posted, I assume are 1948 statistics, so how do you know that he meant 1948? as I said, 1947 is "before the Israeli state was formed" so is 1847, so is 1747 and so on,

here is a chart, which shows that the Jewish population in 1914 was 7.585%

I know that the illegal Jewish immigration to Palestine started before 1914, so I assume this % was even less in the years before, so how do you know that he did not mean a period even before 1914?

btw do you know when the decision to form a Jewish state in Palestine has been taken?

and still, you did not give a link to the interview itself, but to an article about the interview

 

I dont know what he ment but most chanses are the few years before.

You cant really know when was the "decision" but Theodor Herzl - the one who founded modern political zionism was the first to suggest this idea somewhere between 1895-1905.

Well, this is the article I found.

 

According the information you posted, If me and my family owns good amount of land in the Israel that gives me a right to declare indipendane and start a new country there?

If thats what zionist did. Then palstenian people should stop the struggling and start purchasing land in Israel.

Heck USA should have done the same with Iraq too. Instead of INVADING it, they should have purcahsed land and thrown Saddam out of it.

 

You don't know what you're talking about.

When the British left Palestinian the UN decided to make two states - Jewish and Arab, the Jews jumped on the opportunity while the Arabs didnt like the decision and thats why they still don't have one today.

Unlike the Arab world where the left hand is selling lands while the right is struggling to get it back, Israelis wont sell any land, not for a million $.

Before the mandate there were private land owners and the british forces kept the order, now the land belong to the country so even if someone else buys it, it stills belong to it.

 

The only way Islam has survived is by targeting idiots. Islam advocates are like spammers. Those who know better ignore them, but they catch a few idiots along the way who follow them for not knowing any better.

 

Even the Muslims that are doctors, pilots, engineers, the scientists, the physicists? All idiots? You don't have an inch on them.

 

How about the doctors, pilots, engineers, the scientists, the physicists who disagree with them?

 

How is that relevant to what you said?

Now, it is quite ovbious that is not true. Are you saying all 1.8 billion Muslims are idiots, where alot of them have a better profession and education than you?

As i can tell, you feel threatened by Islam and it's growing numbers.