Changes to the Buy, Sell & Trade area

I think that the new rules are a great idea. However, I do think that the OP should be allowed to post "sold", "deal completed" or "job done". This would be a big help and keep members from getting pm's long after they've gotten the job done or sold their item.

Of course, I've also seen lots of threads where someone has posted that the job is no longer available and there's still a dozen posts of "I'm interested" after it. I also think that since so many people don't even bother to read the posts before replying to a thread they may not read the announcements either.

 

They'll know it's sold when it's delivered or paid for. Deals are private, and there's no reason for those not to be in PMs. "Deal completed" or "job done" tell no one anything useful - again, when it's delivered and paid for the people involved know the deal's completed!

As for them not reading the announcement... that's ok. They'll figure it out pretty quickly when they start getting infractions.

 

I agree that after someone has finished completing a service - they don't need to post "Job Done" etc. That's pointless and yes, the buyer will know it's done - when they receive it. But I do think that someone selling something needs to be able to post "Sold" or similar once the deal has completed to prevent further interest / requests for information / bids etc.

 

In the case where a limited number of something is sold (let's say a domain name or site as an example), anyone interested can still PM the OP - they would simply look at the first person to PM them about it, or make a decision as to who they wanted to sell to (would also cause fewer problems than having someone who only wants to sell to an established member getting torn into b/c a new member with no feedback happened to post first and gets upset that they're not offered the deal). If the OP then wanted to announce it wasn't available anymore, they can always feel free to use the report post icon () to ask the mods to close the thread for them.

 

It would be great if everyone did that. It would also save on sales threads getting resurrected from months back because someone has searched for "site subject for sale" etc. I often see a thread come back after months, then the original OP state that it was sold months back and then post after post requesting information. There are too many people who just read the last post, me included

 

Agreed. I sold a site personally quite a few months back, and was contacted here about it to see if it was for sale still (even though the thread said it was sold, and the whois would certainly reflect that) - go figure, right? lol I think some people won't read no matter what we do unfortunately (in this case, they contacted me via PM instead of resurrecting the thread thankfully).

 

There is only one thing that i don't like in the new rule...
The PM limit...:/
When you are involved in lots of things, it's quite easy to reach the PM limit.

 

i think there should be another change of mentioning the url in site sale forum.it may also help.just a thought

 

Remember, you should also be backing up your PMs locally. So if it starts filling up, just back it up and clear out your box.

freelink4u - That's unlikely (and one of the reasons we discussed for not making a hard rule of having all details required in every thread). There are very legitimate reasons for someone selling a site to not want the site URL available to the masses - stop others from moving in on the niche in large numbers when they see successful stats posted, not having a sale publicly archived, etc.

 

At last. This is (almost) the best news since the last time something really good happened, which, coincidentally, I can't remember when or what it was.

Anyway, the only further improvement is to get rid of the post count/account age limit to post in the B-S-T as it only encourages crappy posts elsewhere to raise post count. Something like a 'pay to sell' feature would be nice, though ain't ever gonna happen cause all the crap of the day from the B-S-T will just get posted elsewhere.

You can never win, even when you should - John Terry will back me up on that

Just out of interest, why isn't there a rep icon on Announcements - and what do mods administrators do if you leave them negative rep? Not that I intend to, 'cause I quite like Chicago Town Pizzas

 

I think the changes to the B&S forum were long overdue.

It's common knowledge people have their pals bumping their threads, and the "PM me" is out of control. Bravo to the fine mod sires.

Exactly.

Puts an end to the phantom, PM ME for details, one on one scam sale threads.

Again, bravo sweet mods.

 

No idea about the announcements, although I would assume it's b/c they're not exactly "posts" like other things - they're simply meant to "announce" things like new policies coming down from the forum administrators.

As for leaving us negative rep, it's not a whole lot different than when you leave other members negative rep. We may reciprocate if we didn't care for what you had to say in the thread, or we may choose to ignore you. I imagine most of us don't care all that much about red rep though... the only difference I guess is that we can see who left it whether they tell us or not. Personally, I don't give red rep back just because they didn't like something I said, but I will if I think they said something particularly stupid in the rep comment or thread they repped me on. I don't get it more or less than I used to before I was a mod, and I don't give it any less either.

 

Sometimes you just can't put all information available to general public in order to protect yourself...

 

I sadly confirmed they don't.

Yesterday I found myself replying to a thread and people posting below asking about what I already had explained, and it was not posting at a time because there were from minutes to hours between each new inquiry to explain the explained.

 

I'm still slightly confused and i read the ENTIRE thread. I run a service where people can comment on blogs and pay x amount each time, however, 7 new blogs get added each week, although the thread is relatively new (a week or so) it was quite popular. People were asking me to notify them when the new blogs are available each week, surely it makes sense to post "7 new blogs now available for commenting etc... etc..." rather than sitting there writing out 25 PM's and trying to work out who did what and when.

Would that be considered a bump? Furthermore i asked the members that participated to post in the thread to show how fast/safe payment was, reassuring other members looking to participate.

Would i be impeeding the rules by doing this, or do i need to create a new thread each week and if so, would that be considered as a duplicated thread (considering im offering the exact same service but with extra blogs each week)

This one got me a little confused, and yes i read and re-read the thread.

 

I have not got even a single response / PM to my messages over last 2-3 days. I am wondering - has it anything to do with the new rules???

 

chtdatweb - If you're talking about this thread, it was closed for saying "Post here if your interested." That's not allowed, and any old threads we come across asking for things like that are being closed. So you'll need to start a new thread asking people instead to PM you if they're interested.

You can say something along the lines of "Feel free to share your feedback on the service," etc., but if you're essentially encouraging them to post things like "payment sent / received, thanks," you would be violating the rules. A legitimate review with something of substance is fine. Simply posting to say a deal was successfully completed is not - that's what iTrader comments are for.

As for you adding new blogs to the service, there's no need to be posting duplicate threads or to bump the original or to ask people to bump it for you by saying they're interested in being updated. You have a link in your original post there that says blog: URL - I'd assume that link is supposed to take them to a list of links to the blogs. Doesn't seem to. But that would suit your purpose w/o breaking the rules. Create a page on your own site detailing your service with the specific blogs, so you can update it and the link will always be up-to-date. Or, tell people to PM you for the full blog list. And posting to your own thread to simply announce that new blogs have been added would be bumping - keep the list up-to-date, and they'll always be able to check what blogs are included - they don't need a play-by-play.