No editor

over the past couple years I've asked dmoz to list my site. It has never happened. Ok, well there are no editors for the three categories I fit in. Ok, so apply. I apply and am rejected as an editor.

At least they looked at my request. BUT why isn't there an editor? if in three years I am the only one to have applied why not hire me, if there have been more has nobody meet the criteria? If somebody is selected to fill the job that will be honest and try wouldn't that be better than no mod at all?

I'm afraid at it's current rate dmoz may lose it's status..pure speculation on my part, but I believe it may happen, as the web has grown and evolved should dmoz also grow and change?

 

Hello 42rumbler

New editors are welcomed into the directory every day, and many of them have had one or more rejections before they submitted an acceptable application, so unless you were advised not to re-apply, you are free to do so. Of course it would be wise to read the rejection letter carefully and attend to any of the points raised there, as well as following the Application Advice.

Regardless of whether there is an editor listed at the bottom of any category, there are about 200 volunteers who can edit there if they choose, so no category is "editor-less". However, as each volunteer is free to spend their hobby time as they wish, it may be that nobody has yet reviewed your suggestion even if they have done some other work in the category.

Looking at site suggestions is just one of many editing activities, as you will find if you are successful in your next application. Good luck!

 

Try again 42rumbler.......I don't know the specifics of your application, but unless you were told not to try again, you really should. I am only new and have been an editor only 2 weeks. It took me 8 attempts.

It's really just a cse of learning how you need to edit, so it took me a while to read, llearn and submitt correctly. If I can do it, anybody can.

Try again.....editing is fun You obviously wanted too, so just persevere a bit and treat it like seo, a bit of trial and error and honing your skills and then one day, good serps!

 

Congrats on you, Snooks! How long did it take you to become an editor?
If you're an editor for some category, are you automatically editor for all the categories below that one also?

 

I got accepted on the first try, and they don't like me very much, lol.

They also let Crowbar edit, and he's so preoccupied with WOW that he randomly inserts Warcraft words into the descriptions of sites within his category...

So if the two of us can do it, I know you can

 

Metas are aware of this problem...thats why they granted him http://www.dmoz.org/Games/Video_Games/Roleplaying/Massive_Multiplayer_Online/World_of_Warcraft/

Talking about your edits...the sound of silence is nice

 

Hello LawnchairLarry.
Yes, this is the case, but there are two important things to note:

1. New editors are advised to apply for small categories (fewer than 70-100 sites), and these do not often have many subcategories (if any at all)
2. The editor only has access to real subcategories, not the ones with "@" next to them. These point to categories elsewhere in the directory.

Also, just to remind you that once an editor has shown that he understands the editing guidelines and can adhere to ODP policies, he is encouraged to apply for permission to edit in other categories, and in this way he can gain access to a number of different areas.

 

Thanks, I will reapply after I study the application guidelines, although I thought I had adhered to them when applying? Thanks and it's good to know I can reapply, is there any certain amount of time I should wait?

 

When you get an email rejecting you, hopefully it will clearly indicate why. In that case just reapply again, 3 sites but pay special attention to where you went wrong, or did not abide by the guidelines. It really just is paying attention to small things.

I resubmitted an hour or so after two of the rejections.........I was keen

I dont believe there are any time constraints mentioned, but im sure a far more experienced editor will post here and advise us.

Cheers.

 

So long as the denied application letter didn't indicate future applications would not be necessary, there is no time period to wait before reapplying. Take only as long as you need to identify and correct the causes of the previous denials.

 

Make sure you declare ALL of your web site affiliations. Take some time to find three good, unique sites in the categories you are applying for and polish your descriptions of them until they match the guidelines perfectly. Apply then wait a few weeks and ask for a status report at the resource zone forum.

Eazy peazy.

 

I submitted a cats website to dmoz like last year and still to date, I haven't even received so much as an email stating whether or not it was rejected/aproved. :S

 

Sorry, but DMOZ does not care two licks about you or your site. They only care about editors and future editors. That's why they get word back. If you'd like to hear back from a directory after submitting a site, submit to one that cares about the end user.

For sites it's 'read all the rules and follow then before you even begin to even thing about submitting' to be an editor it's a bit different. You can guess and guess and guess until you get it right...

 

Your definition of end user is webmasters/site owners, our definition of end user is the web surfer looking for information, (and possibly the entities that download our data for distribution to them), not the creators of the information.

We build categories for information seekers, not for information providers. Why is that so hard to understand?

Webmasters create sites, we collect and organize the ones we need to build the categories, and delete the rest.

You keep talking like we're a listing service that has to take everything that's submitted to us, we're not, and we don't. It's a really simple concept, why do you insist on making it complex?

 

I think you are being a little harsh on Christopher. You need to look at this from the perspective of someone like him. You and I see the project as a means to provide unbiased content free of commercial considerations. Whereas we would be mortified at the idea of promoting a product on our posts and profile for a few cents a day like folks such as Christopher finds it quite ethical and justified from, their frame of reference. In fact he has even sent me PMs telling me how "moral" this activity is.

To understand this simple philosophy not only explains actions like his applying to the directory under false pretenses to promote his agenda but also this constant twisting of the issues to fit the points that he is so desperate to make.

 

You need to really look into just who the end user really is and then get back with me. I'm not talking about who you WANT the end user to be, I'm talking about who the end user IS.

At least Crowbar can make a post that is actually in reply to the one above it, that is on topic to the thread, and actually has something to do with the forum its posted in... rather then just trolling like you.

Why is it that you keep bringing that up, yet can in no way shape or form prove it? It's funny how you tell me to back up my own claims then you keep coming up with complete and totally baseless lies such as this. It's really no wonder you have to hide behind a false name here. I'd be ashamed of others knowing who I was... if I were a person as low as you are.

It's funny that you have such double standards. That says a lot about you and the directory you are editing for...

 

As far as building the Directory, and whom we serve by doing it, the only opinion that matters is ours.

Just because people "use" the Internet to make a living, doesn't make them the end user that we serve, or should serve. I, personally, don't think we should use the term "end user" at all because people get the wrong idea and think it means anyone who uses the Internet, which it doesn't.

We serve web surfers/information seekers. The only reason the term "web users" is used is because search engines do download our data dumps, so technically, they would be considered "users of the Directory" also.

It's time that term was reconsidered, and I may just bring it up.

 

Hang on Christopher. Here at DP you posted asking other members to join with you in the destruction of the ODP. Then within days you applied to become an editor. Thats a provable fact my dear friend no matter what "shape or form" you attempt to distort it to.

 

Your timeline is off, and your posting out of context. Funny that is something you keep saying is a bad trait about me... Your double standards say a LOT about yourself.

I said that if soooo many of the webmasters here are upset about the ODP and how it functions that they (we even) should stand up together so our voices are heard together rather then as just a hodgepodge of individuals. If you recall correctly it was at a time when there was no official voice for the ODP and that it was down for MONTHS because of the big crash (which incidentally would have gotten DMOZ.org removed from the directory). There was also the simple fact of the ONLY voice of the ODP I could see at the time was that of the editors that post here. If based upon your own posting style, it's no wonder I had ill thoughts about the ODP... look how you treat others while hiding your name? Ashamed?

But then, team work is something that is beyond your train of thought isn't it? After all, you are the editor that hides behind an alias and says that following the guidelines is shaky advice ~ but then, only when *I* say it, as it's seemingly OK with you when editors say it. Double standards again maybe?

I got to know other editors, and found that maybe there would be a good sence of community within the ODP and that maybe all those that speak bad things about it were wrong. I did what many suggested and looked for myself. I started to edit, and enjoyed it. I also got to asking questions and looking deeper into what was open. What I found is that the "trolls" here on DP are not the actual trolls at all, that the ex-editors are truly saying it like it is. That when something bad is said against the ODP facts are generally presented with it, but when editors refute those claims the ONLY thing offered up are personal attacks. People here I am sure can see just what I am talking about... simply looking through YOUR posting history here will show that the only real trolls on this board are active editors (though, granted, not all of them). Again, it's a matter of double standards...

Yeah, preach on about morals there little lady

 

Free of commercial considerations? Almost pissed myself on that one. Some of the worst MFA type sites I have ever seen reside on DMOZ. Actually go through the dirctory and look before you make silly statements.

Anyone that wants to be listed in dmoz should actually go through the directory once and they would have second thoughts. Outdated websites, one page MFA sites, and of course editors sites are what you'll find.

I also find it incredulous that any dmoz editors suggest that the directory is for web surfers and people seeking information...99% of those people use google as it is more efficient and returns much better and much more informative results.