Children are Being Tortured

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by guerilla, May 22, 2008.

  1. #1
    Given the blog post below (with sources), is it justified under any circumstance to torture children? Like, if the rationale is that one should torture to get information to save lives, does that also extend to kids?

    http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/05/they-torture-children-dont-they.html


     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    May the American empire burn a fast but painful death.

    The greatest Americans have not been born yet. They are waiting patiently for the past to die.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    We probably won't hear from the great forum moralists, who like to condemn me for challenging the age of consent, and the notion of victimless crimes, on what is being claimed in this thread.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6492.htm


    Children shrieking from being sodomized (assumed under orders to torture, degrade and terrorize) by our own government.

    Nice stuff, ain't it. Yet when I question the government, the great moralists, the forum Berkley socialists and their cohorts are quick to label me the radical, the outsider, the inhumane one.
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    some one should tell that it is shame. But is it only shame ? is it only one bad apple ? :(
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    I see guerilla's pals share his views of America. At least they have the balls to say it outright.

    It is amusing to me that guerilla, who claims to be pro-American, shares his views with most of the America hating crowd here. Gee, that is so surprising. Oh, and what a shock, that same group all hate Israel and Jews. Who would have ever thunk it.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    So are you saying that you support the American sodomizing of children at Abu Ghraib? If that is the case, then you must be very proud of yourself.

    As far as hating Jews, nothing could be further from the truth. That's just your lame attempt at is very similar to race baiting. I have no issues with Judaism or Jews.

    The policies of the Israeli government however are reprehensible and do damage to the image of Jews worldwide.
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    American empire. It was carefully worded. But your post is just the same as all of your posts...if all you are going to do is spam you might aswell not post.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Oh well, you used the word empire, so feel free to say whatever you want. Obviously you support America. How silly of me to mis-interpret your comment about wanting America to "burn a fast but painful death".
     
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    ThraXed Peon

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    The American empire should burn to death, not America itself, they have some good people there....if you search around hard enough. :eek:

    Anyway thanks for the input Rabbi browntwn
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    I am not a Rabbi, Priest, Pastor, Sheik, or Imam, so you can stop referring to me with any of those labels.
     
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    No. Not in the least. I condemn it utterly.

    That's because you're an idiot, and a dishonorable puke to boot. You do argue for the legality of child porn, and for children being forced into marriage to and impregnation by middle aged men. I am not a Berkeley "socialist" but I do care about kids, as a father and a human being, and while you're everywhere whining "stalker" you're in hot pursuit of this kind of nefarious lying, across this forum, and - don't cry, now - will earn a rightful response wherever you pursue it. Those of us who care about kids shudder at their pain, universally. Nice use of slime, though, to attempt to discredit my beliefs otherwise by reference to pain here. Typical, but slime nevertheless.
     
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    Watch it, npt, personal attacks get a perm ban in this section. Just thought i'd remind you because i'd like you to stay around!

    And I'm not taking sides. But i would preffer it if you would stop turning every thread into a personal battleground for you and Guerilla, one thread has already been ruined because it
     
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    Thraxed, I will need you to see something, because this is typical.

    Guerilla is referring to me personally when he is referring to a "Berkeley socialist." He is doing what he always does - writes the most vile horseshit, on a personal basis, and then cries if he is responded to. I can't help if you or others can't see it, but I also won't allow this kind of crap to stand. The mods will do what they will do, and as always, I respect their performance in this respect.
     
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    Oh...i didn't know that sorry but still it would be good if you kept your arguments to PM's or if you could just ignore it
     
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    All kinds of things would be good, Thraxed, including the end of lies, slanders, distortions, character assassinations, as evidenced by this and dozens of other threads. If I respond to someone's political agenda, naming me as supporting the torture of children because I condemn child porn, or forced impregnation of underage girls, you'll forgive me if I reply, and testily at that. If you, or anyone else has a problem, report it.
     
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    TheMarketingMadman Well-Known Member

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    I'd love to hear you scream this in my bar.........
     
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    All empires should burn a fast and painful death because they bring no good.

    Though you wouldn't find me in your bar because i don't drink.
     
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    Like a moth to the flame....
    Now see, this ^^^ is the stuff you started first. Giving me an opinion that I do not hold. You've been asked repeatedly to provide a source for the "legality of child porn" opinion, and have failed each time to produce. It's simply a lie you have concocted to discredit me by attacking me personally and trying to associate my arguments with something nefarious.

    As for the actual arguments of my position, you have been able to muster the intellectual capital to engage them as they deserve to be discussed. Slander becomes more than a tool. It becomes a crutch.

    Actually, your politics are consistent with socialism, and you did attend Berkley, did you not? That would make you a Berkley socialist.

    Btw, if you really care about the world, why don't you harass your alma mater about keeping the war criminal John Yoo (who wrote the policies that allowed Iraqi boys to be sodomized at Abu Ghraib) on staff? Whatever I do or do not think, on an internet forum, has little to do with real evil in the world, in your backyard in particular.

    Now do you have anything to say about our government sodomizing boys @ Abu Ghraib? Or can you only muster outrage for being addressed as a "Berkley Socialist"?
     
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    TheMarketingMadman Well-Known Member

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    America has did more good for this world than any other country.... if you don't see that grab a history book or ask France.
     
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    History books are different in America than the rest of the world, didn't you figure that out yet.
     
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