Israel and Syria officially confirm indirect talks

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by iggysick, May 21, 2008.

  1. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #41
    I have no interest in making child porn.

    I disapprove of child porn. Have I ever posted otherwise?

    Now, back to you, are there any limits on your capacity to murder, or would you limit yourself to say, ten 12 year olds, and their families? Because I'm wondering if your family is say, 8 people, how many people that would justify killing in (sic) self-defense? 50? 1,000? 100,000?
     
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  2. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #42
    @rebecca i do not think i want to go where guerilla is going. i think it is pretty normal for people to defend their family just want to make sure.
    would you kill your neighbor if it would save your family? do you think it is natural and morally right?
     
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  3. imad

    imad Peon

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    #43
    one of the things that Zionists do not do right, is news, since Israel was established on stolen lands from Palestinians, they did not notice maybe there were people living there, and reported there was no people there, even raised a slogan which says "a land without people for a people without land"

    another example, is MEMRI and the so many translation "mistakes" they committed when reporting from occupied lands, which makes it almost impossibles for me to take whatever they say without researching myself,

    if that was true (which I highly doubt it) it would add to their creditibilty if they reported the other side, where we hear calls like this:

    Rabbi Lior Says It’s OK to Kill Civilians …and other rabbis are silent

    and this:

    Rabbi calls for hanging Arab children from trees

    and of course, it always fail to show the real morality behind Israel leaders, which they expressed it in many occasions, like Shamir did in 1991 before any suicide bombing happen:

    Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir: "Jewish terrorism is acceptable because Jews are stateless and persecuted. Palestinian terrorism is not because Palestine belongs to Israel."

    for him terrorism, is acceptable, he was not the first to say something similar, and this was not the only thing he said, he and other Israeli prime ministers, were wanted internationally, for practicing terrorism,

    Palestinians believe that Palestine belongs to the Palestinians, not saying that its something right to do terrorism but if Israel accept terrorism, then I believe Israel and its supporters, should not blame Palestinians for committing it.
     
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  4. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #44
    If you disapprove, then why do you want to make child porn legal?

    As to your question, you have already asked, the answer is the same as it was 1 hr ago, I would kill someone that is trying to kill me or my family.

     
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  5. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #45
    This is like the Klondike bar commercials.

    What would you do to save your family?

    Would you kill a dog?
    Would you kill yourself?
    Would you kill others?
    Would you punch someone else in the arm?
    Would you spend a year in Gitmo?
    Would you support Israel? (trying to think of something really offensive for guerilla)
    Would you have sex with a 15 year old?
    Would you cut off your own finger?
    Would you cut off someone else finger?
    Would you steal a car?
    Would you denounce your religion?
    Would you kill one family member to save two?

    I just wanted to play the dumb question game with you guys.
     
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  6. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #46
    Hold on a second here. I responded to your last post. Now it's your turn to respond to my question.

    I'll respond to your question when you answer my question on how many people you are planning to murder. :)
     
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    Rankhyips Banned

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    #47
    They invented it!

    Boohoo someone is trying to escape from the real issue.
     
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  8. northpointaiki

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    #48
    Yes, you have.

    In Guerilla's world, he considers child porn "victimless," engaged in by "consenting" individuals. Horseshit, in my opinion, and Guerilla's usual dodging is meritless.

    To the sophistry over which he would wish to crucify Rebecca, give it a rest. I believe Rebecca is saying she loves her family, and would do anything for them, and in this she isn't alone. This is a stupid conjectural abstraction - much like just about everything else I've seen out of Guerilla, if he isn't engaging other bad faith methods. She has already said what she is talking about is protecting her family - say, in the instance of a robbery, where a bomb might be considered "overkill." True to form, Guerilla would wish for everything to be skewed to anything but the bald facts before us, in countless issues, now.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #49
    there are no dumb question only dumb answers. where did i hear that.
     
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  10. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #50
    Dead on accurate.

    I don't know where you heard it.

    I have always thought it is one of the most idiotic sayings. Of course there are stupid questions. Phrasing something in the form of a question does not magically give merit to the thought.
     
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  11. northpointaiki

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    #51
    I see Guerilla is hunting down the thread where nukes were discussed, in order to crucify Rebecca for her beliefs. Here, let me help Guerilla, by referring to the progression of Rebecca's posts:

    Coupled with this thread:

    It's clear to me, what the thrust of Rebecca's argument is. Again, a stupid conjectural question. Meanwhile, a spot-on actual question - should children doing porn be illegal - is answered with an "no, because it's uh, well, uh....victimless...uh....consensual...uh....uh..."

    Please.
     
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  12. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #52
    No I haven't. You have charged me with it, but I have never posted that I supported child porn.

    I do not support victimless crimes. Do you believe that child porn is a victimless crime? I do not, nor have I said such.

    If you would like, we can continue our discussion from before, then one you quoted out of context from as usual.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=7754899&postcount=31

    I'm still not seeing where I endorse child porn. Care to point it out to the gallery? :rolleyes:

    Ah yes, the white knight has arrived. :rolleyes:

    You obviously missed the post I sourced, where she clearly indicates

    Seems pretty cut and dry to me. The question was clarified, and Rebecca said she would kill civilians to protect herself and her family.

    Is that a "bald" enough fact for you? lol
     
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  13. Powerweb

    Powerweb Banned

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    #53
    Nobody here can really judge what is going on in israel and Gaza, you are influenced by Islamic propaganda - we are willing to make peace with the Palestinians but how can you make peace with people that chose the Hamas terrorists that keep bombing our cities, lets think together what the US would've done if terrorists bombed New York ? or if terrorists bombed London ? they are targeting Israeli civilians on purpose and let me assure you that NO body in israel support killing innocent Palestinian children.
    when Hamas terrorists are on the way to launch Qasam missiles on Israeli territory and they drive a car in the middle of Gaza what can the army do ? let them shoot the missiles or try to hit them on the street ? Israel is not attacking it's defending itself lets forget about the "Stealing Land" argument and talk about what's going on right now where TERRORISTS were chosen by the Palestinian people to represent them, I'm inviting all of you to Israel to see what is really going on in the middle east, how Palestinians get equal rights here and try to abuse those rights to try and destroy Israel from the inside, where Palestinians get equal rights and they wont pay taxes, where Palestinians got a Minister in the Government and Representatives that keep trying to destroy Israel and spy for foreign Muslim countries.
     
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  14. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #54
    but inquiring minds want to know.
    when i ask questions i always want to clarify things for myself. and i am sure other people do the same thing. i have asked her two questions and no answers yet?
     
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  15. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #55
    Sorry Pizzaman, I didn't realize you needed a personal answer. I answered this question several times in this thread already so I just thought you were ok. But just for you:), "I would defend me or my family if someone was trying to kill them."

    Anyway, I just took my dog out for a walk and was thinking about all the time I wasted today on this thread. Maybe that is why I don't post more than I do, I need to go do something productive. I hope no one has any hard feelings. Everyone have a nice evening.:)
     
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    imad Peon

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    #56
    maybe you can tell me, what does the term "civilian" mean for Israel? and does it include "innocent children" besides, as I see you joined the two words in one phrase "innocent children" does that mean, there are guilty Palestinian children?
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #57
    You have a nice evening too. And,. no hard feelings. Hopefully you can understand how I felt the last week.

    And besides, Paul is busy doing his link research for a monster guerilla attack. :)

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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #58
    thanks for answering i have one more
    do you think your neighbor has the right to kill your family if you tried to kill him?
     
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  19. northpointaiki

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    #59
    Yeah, Guerilla. Really convincing.

    1. As long as its "consensual," its "victimless."

    2. Kids doing porn, so long as it is not coerced, "consent.". Guerilla defended the position of one Mary Ruwart, quite vigorously, in the cited thread. Among other things, like here, he accused those of us saying a big WTF???? to her statements on child porn of "taking her out of context."

    Please note, if you care to review the thread, that not once did Guerilla take the indignant stand he is now; all of a sudden, it's "I NEVER meant that!"

    Now, I'm sorry to reprint such a lengthy piece, but as usual, Guerilla has resorted to an attempt to make this just go away under a veil of sophistry, subtle shifts of language, and obscurity, and it musn't stand.

    I will repeat.

    In Guerilla's world, so long as the kids doing porn "consent," no one is being harmed. There are no victims.
    In his worlds, "victimless" crime isn't a crime, and shouldn't be made illegal.
    Child porn shouldn't be made illegal.

    Now, please note the subtle twist. If you gloss over the first line, the others follow. But as with his having no issue with young teens being made to marry and be impregnated by middle aged men, he seems to be saying with a straight face that children engaged in porn, so long as they weren't "coerced," have "consented," and the rest of the tortured syllogism follows.

    It's his usual. And I am personally sick of watching it pass.

    As to Rebecca and her beliefs, again, well, look.
     
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  20. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #60
    Killing innocent ppls is a crime. You can not jail whole family of a guy, who had killed one of your family.
     
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