everything that I say to you or your friends it is personal attack. right? you are telling lies in one sentence without any explanations and you expect me to do what? to debate?
"clear to fools like you" Great debate man... Do you call it debate ? or do you call it personal attack ? Of course you should attack personally, or why dont you call Mossad to help you ? Have you heard of Irgun and Lehi ?
No, I didn't call it debate. that's exactly what i am trying to say. i can't debate with you when you write one sentence with lies and just drop it to the air. What is the contact to the Mossad? WTF? of course I heard about Irgun and Lehi.
what about jordan i think that peace is holding any way it probably will be a few years before all the settlers situation is going to be finalized . start by removing most those roads from israeli control and transfer it to the palestanians. as the times go by and there is no attacks then the settlers can decide if they want to be living in israel or palestine. this choice can be made a couple of years later
You mean they will be able to chose between death or losing their homes? well if they will chose death they will lose their homes anyway, so I think they will chose to lose their homes. anyway, giving terrorists Judea and Samaria, will not help for the peace. Hamas saying this clearly and loudly: "WE DON'T RECOGNIZE ANY INCH OF ISRAEL, WE WANT IT ALL". 70% of the "Palestinians" voted for Hamas.
It is not clear to me. It is not just "Bush" supporting Israel, it is America. When Bush gets out of office, we will still support Israel. 66% of Americans agree with Israel whereas only 10% agree with Palestine. On the Palestine side you have terrorists like hezbollah...
Hizballah and Hamas, are freedom fighters, of course oppressors, and occupiers, have always called freedom fighters terrorists, besides, you show your ignorance because Hizballah is on the Lebanese side, not Palestinians, with all respect to Hizballah and their great work, in liberating the South, and defeating Israel in 2006 war.
you say the same thing about palestanian homeland. you also want to take their land, remember the "transfer" that you were promoting. this is very normal when you are at war.each side want to destroy the other. after a few years of normality they can choose but maybe 50% want to live in a diffrent country.then ofcourse they can move if they prefer.
Israel has been a threat for world peace since the day it was established, I believe, that most Palestinians are adopting Hamas views now, because everything else have failed, Palestinians admitted Israel, and accepted the two states solution, went into negotiations, that been destroyed by Israel time after time, under so many excuses each time, Palestinians voted for Fatah by higher percentage when the peace process was running, and there was no violence then, when every thing collapsed, they realized, that Israel does not want peace, peace is Israel number one enemy not Hamas nor Hizballah, because it puts an end for their greeds in keeping on Palestinian lands, and maybe seizing more under false excuses always like Dayan tractors Besides, the current legal situation of Israel is violating international law, which accepted Israel on condition that it allows refugees to go back to their homes, which Israel never did, which makes it an illegal state, you can't blame Hamas for wanting to implement international law, would you?
there are many diffrent views in israel. from the people that want to go back to the 67 border to the one like ohad that want to remove all the palestanian in the west bank. when you say support israel which view do you mean. i am sure most americans support israel to live in peace with her neighbors. but i am not sure how many americans or even israelis would want israel to get involved in etnic cleansing[transfer] of palestanian in west bank. . also what has bush done for israel? iran has gotten stronger hizbollah has gotten more powerful and popular hamas are now elected in an election that he promoted and now are in control of gaza. and peace process has been shelved for six to seven years. moderate palestanian and arabs in general has been sidelined. he has done a lot for iran, hamas and hizbolah maybe you can tell me what has he done for israel?
It takes a really twisted person to call Hamas' suicide bombs an effort to "implement international law".
They are sick. I have no problem condemning those who celebrate murderers. You on the other hand, hold up Hamas as something to be proud of not condemned. It is that same sickness that has destroyed the Palestinian society. They, like you, have apparently lost their moral compass.
sick would be a very polite word for them, what destroyed the Palestinian society, destroyed about half of it 27 years before the first suicide bombing, and destroyed the first half 19 years before the second half, but it failed to destroy the Palestinians, too good or too bad for some, the reason I mentioned the saint Goldstein, is that what he did, triggered the first suicide bombing, it was not the first incident, but its the point where Palestinians could not take it anymore without reply. those who made Goldstein a saint, are still celebrating him every year, and visiting his fancy grave to pray, did not see serious condemns rather than sick tries to show world media that we are nice, when they were behind this incident and many others like it, before it, and after it. my comment about Hamas was in reply to Ohad where he said they do not admit Israel, this refusal to admit is based on legal grounds which are very valid.
I can write down a list what zionist terrorism done in past, but you can search it by yourself too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_Zionism Comparing Revisionist Zionism streams to "Nazi and fascist parties", the letter was signed by Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt, Sidney Hook and other prominent American Jews not known for their support of Zionism in general. The letter began: Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the “Freedom Party†(Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine. The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin’s political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.[2]
I agree that AIPAC doing great job. Funny thing is that in any possible future peace agreement between Israel and Palestinians US tax payers will pay the bill. Israel sure does love your tax dollars more than anything. Do you know who will compesate property of 700,000 Palestinians who were forced to left their homes because of creation of Israel? I do. Same tax payers curently paying for peace between Israel and Egypt and Jordan. And as long as US blindly supports Israel any kind of peace is impossible. Only blind people can't see that from 60 years of conflict.
Where do you think they should establish themselves? Palestinians never had all of Israel they were just close.