I'll split profit for help! 25 thousand pageviews daily = No AdSense Profits

Guys,

I need some help here.

I own (a site) with current average of 27,000 pageviews a day.

I am using Google AdSense here with current ad placement since 1.January.2008 and since then, my average has been little over 2600 unique users a day, with 26,808 pageviews per day and daily average profit of only $2.37. Yup, you're reading it correctly

You'll probably agree with me, that that is probably the worse AdSense stat you've ever seen. I am making exactly $0.0000884 per pageview.

Here is my Adsense stat screenshot from 1.January.08 till 19.May.08:


If you look at the site. I am placing AdSense ads right to the top and they're also built into the forum, pretty much everywhere where it could somehow count... I am showing these ads only to unregistered visitors, my registered members never click ads anyways...

I've tried to change the ad placement, but stats were even worse. This placement, no matter how bad, is the best out of 10-15 different combinations I've tried in two years.

Anyhow, as you can see, this is bad and there has to be some way to make some profit from the site. I can't rely on donations from my users forever, even that lately they've been very supportive.

My questions is. For a site like this one, is there any way to turn all those pageviews to some kind of a profit... is there any affiliate program, which would work for me?

I am willing to split profits from this site for up to a 3 months long period with anyone who can make this site profitable. Tell me how to get it to least $25-50 / day profit.

I'll try it and if it works at this range for a period of one week, I'll paypal you $1500 immediately afterwards or split (50/50) 3 months worth of profit with you (no matter how high it is).

Is that possible? If yes, please let me know, you will profit with me!

Thanks.

 

Two issues:
1) It is likely that the majority of page views are from users who come and login. Therefore, each member creates a page view but their only intention is to click the login button or use the login form, therefore although the advert has been displayed there is definitely little chance of it being clicked. It is likely you have fewer actual unregistered users that you think, which is why it is so low.

2) You should perhaps look into advertisements from pet stores. There must be relevant pet stores who are local to your traffic or national who may wish to advertise on such a forum.

3) You could create a website, as well as the forum. People engaging in content on websites are more likely to click an advertisement, and it's easier to put ads in good places.

4) You could show it to registered users. If they wont mind the advertisements, then perhaps put them in a discrete place, such as the bottom of the page. But if they really don't mind, put them in an effective place such as after the first post.

The issue is you're such a specific topic that there are only so many adverts google can give you.

 

There is a great AdSense guide for VB I will try and find for you. You are also in a good niche for affiliate monetization. I can't remember the name of the marketeer but this guy was making thousands from dog training niche. I assume this could work a treat for you as well.

 

Try scrolling though the Adsense ads he has. You would be surprised how many ads you will see. Just because its a forum about a specific breed of dog, does not mean Adsense will only show that specific ad.

 

Yeah that is pretty bad. Why not dump adsense and just run some CPM ads? You could use TribalFusion and BurstMedia to run a couple banner ads on every page above the fold. That could easily earn you up to 1.25 CPM, or about $30+ dollars a day.

Your adsense ads are way to intrusive. I would get rid of the two giant 336x280 ads at the top of each page and try some more subtle ads. Maybe even link units.

But your best bet is a few good CPM programs like the ones I mentioned. You could also try Kontera..

Good luck!

 

Thanks for throughout answers guys.
You maybe right, maybe 25% of all users are returning users, but there is still good 2000 new unique users a day, coming from Google, Yahoo and MSN. These are not clicking the ads either. It's almost like my ads are under some bad spell
Similar forum site I have is generating $50/day from half of the pageviews I have here.

Well, as you've said, this one is a really good niche site, and I was looking for some pet affiliates but couldn't find anything my users would click on.

The dog training I didn't try... maybe I should.

Hm, there has to be something I can do guys... this truly sucks. Such a popular site, currently number one or two for its niche, and it is barely making money to pay for its hosting

 

I've tried to use smaller units at the top, no difference, in fact more obtrusive, better results I've got. I am telling you, this site is weird.

Anyhow, TribalFusion, BurstMedia? 1.25 CPM, or about $30+ dollars a day?
That would be amazing... Do they pay per view? No click necessary?

The way I see it, my visitors will simply never click any ads... ... ah maaannn

 

Right, here is a tested guide on Adsense and VB I mentioned:

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=107965

Discrete ads often work much better than those huge banners you have by your navbar.

Then join Clickbank if you have not already and try "Dove Cresswells Dog Training Online". I believe it converts very well.

PS: No need to pay me.

 

Since I've started this topic, I've got 5 PMs, from those interested in buying this site.
Guys, I know it maybe interesting, but I had numerous offers at around $10K and never sold it.
I am running it for such a long time, that I've got quite attached to it.
I've made a site in 3 years from nothing to average of 1100 posts a day and almost 500 thousand posts.
You see those two dogs in the banner? Those are my two Golden Retrievers

Rather give me some help guys, ... imagine you're in my shoes... There must be something to do.

 

That is exactly the guide I used on my site since January. This is what makes it the best. Adding those two huge banners in fact made it better. (I know, exact opposite to what you would think)

Click bank, Dove Cresswells Dog Training Online? That seems interesting. I will try it. Any idea where is should be placed? Or how to serve the clickbank the best way? I have a clickbank account, but never really used it that much.

 

Hmmm thats strange. Maybe its because I was targeting people who were a bit more familiar with Adsense ads and hiding them actually worked.

When it comes to Clickbank there are a number of techniques you can try but I would suggest contacting the advertiser because:

a) Its their product and they know what works and what does not.
b) Its in their interest to maximise your sales.

 

Hey,

I am going to break this down for you step by step and we'll see if we can't change your number of clicks. I don't want you to send me $1500, though. As nice as that'd be, I'd feel like a jerk for taking so much money from you. Would help with college, though...Nah, whatever...Anyways...Here are some steps that I suggest implementing:

-Get rid of ALL the adsense ads you currently have. The two on top, the one when you click on a sub-forum, and the one that appears after the first thread. Just get rid of them. They are horrible looking.
-Now that they are gone, you're going to want to install a vB plugin that makes putting adsense ads much easier. Basically, it creates a section after the first thread that you can put an ad. I suggest this because it is not too in their face, but if an ad appears that they like, they can click it.
-If you're going to put an adsense ad up on the top where those two huge blocks are, consider a horizontal banner rather than those huge blocks. They are a lot more aesthetically pleasing.
-Consider opening ads to your registered users. As long as you don't use massive ads like you currently are, the members won't mind.

Now that you've sort of worked out your adsense integration, your next step is to try some other types of ads. Here's what I suggest:

-Sign up for that clickbank offer. If you want, implement it in placement of the adsense banner on the top or you can replace the adsense banner after the first thread. You want to let your visitors, all of them, see it.
-Sign up for one of those CPM companies. I like to use Adsdaq (a smaller one), but you can use whatever. If you do use Adsdaq, I recommend plugging your adsense code into the adsdaq code and then you can just use one code. That way, you can have the CPM ad appear when the fill rate is filled, and the adsense appear other times. Or, you could put the clickbank ad, adsense ad, and the adsense one.
-Finally, try and get in contact with some online dog stores and tell them you'll sell banner space on your site for X dollars a month. Since you're getting 2000 visitors a day, they'll definitely want to give you some nice money. It may not, alone, bring in $25 a day, but it'll definitely bring in some very nice money, I would think.

That's what I suggest to really get your site growing and earning. I wish there was more that I could say, but I have always had a hard time myself getting forums to earn. However, I think all of these steps should really help your earnings increase tremendously. Best of luck!

 

Get rid of ALL the adsense ads you currently have. The two on top, the one when you click on a sub-forum, and the one that appears after the first thread. Just get rid of them. They are horrible looking.

Ok, I've done that. Let me see what happens in a day. If this on its own helps.

-Sign up for that clickbank offer. If you want, implement it in placement of the adsense banner on the top or you can replace the adsense banner after the first thread. You want to let your visitors, all of them, see it.

I am going to do this as well. Thanks a lot for other suggestions... They sounds like a plan.

BTW. Someone just suggested creditburner.blueadvertise.com, I've tried them for half hour, but got crazy lot of pms from my users about ads creating lot of problems.

 

Best of luck, 7stars7stones. I hope you can bring in the money that you want.

 

I still think, the best way would be to sign up with someone with high payout for 1000 impressions.
Simply because my visitors do not click ads.

But for that to take place, it will need to be unobtrusive... credit burner almost killed my forum.
Two banners and it was redirecting users away while they were typing messages. Moving their scroll-bar up to where the banner was located automatically...crazy...

 

your site traffic is 900 k
how it get 200 unique?
2 $ is good for a site barely in highest million websites alexa

 

All I want is to get at least enough to pay for the expenses I have with it.
Currently if there were no member donations, I would be losing money on it big time.

 

It gets 2600 unique a day. That is the average since January.

Look at my adsense screenshot, I have over 3 million pageviews since january... http://forums.digitalpoint.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18015&d=1211242388

Not sure where you have your information, but here are my online real time stats, keeping every day for the last 3 years: http://extremetracking.com/open;sum?login=goldenrf

As you can see, today I had for example 3100 unique users.

 

maybe try a redesign for the website with a good ad placement and it'll be even better. Don't know if it will increase your pay but it'll sure be worth it.

 

and oh yea try firefox referals that might help alot.