I don't just believe in GOD because of the Bible nobody does. Then Bible says to pray for wisdom and knowledge. That's what I do and that's what I get.
Well than If a group of people one day started spreading the word that a certain part of the world BELONGS to them cause 'GOD' promised it to them, and came back 1500yrs later and expelled whoever lived there and claimed it as their own state/land place to live on, would you support such an action, even if it meant creating pain, suffering, injustice for millions of other human beings? Would this 'GOD' support such an action? What does your Bible say about that?
Why does the land belong to anyone else but Israel, guru-seo? They've settled it; built cities there and are self sufficient. Why does anyone else have a right to what Israel built?
If someone steals money and buys a car with it, do they get to keep the car? I'm not saying Israel stole per se, but their settlement process involves violence and coercion.
The Bible says GOD would kill the enimies of Israel. And give their land back in these days. This prophesy was made in the Spring of 536BC http://www.direct.ca/trinity/jerusalem.html GOD said HE didn't do it for things the Israelis have done but for HIS Holy name. As we can see God has his hand with Israel and with Jerusalem. Israel began in 1948 but would not obtain Jerusalem until June 7,1967 under circumstances Israel could not foresee or plan out. Ezekiel 36:22-23 "It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations. The nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I show myself holy through you before their eyes." (Ezekiel 36:22-23)
We didn't stole any land. they already stole 76% in the state called "Jordan", I can't see any reason to share with them the little 24% that we have. Unfortunately, they stole from us a lot from this 24%.
hi ohad i just want to get this right. you and 20% of israelis want the palestanians gone from all west bank and you want that land. 1-is this correct.if not explain 2-would you say that most of these people that live in the occupied territory agree with this "transfer" plan of yours ? 3-what is the view of the other 80% ?can you give us an inside view on the breakdown
You expelled 700,000 Palestinians from their homes and stole their land. Taking someones land, villages and homes without paying for it is stealing in whole civilised world. Thou, I don't consider Israel to be part of that world.
I don't know exactly how many support this. 1. it is correct. I want Muslims in the East Bank (Jordan - 76% of Eretz Israel), Jews in the West Bank (24% from Eretz Israel). 2. it's not occupied territory. they occupying our land. 50% of the "Palestinians" wants to live in another country. so, i am ready to help them. 3. There is a lot of ideologies. the most leftists support Israel in 67 borders. normal leftists supports 67 borders with security fixes. Centrists supports "Palestinian" country without expelling 260,000 Jews from their homes. Rightists will possibly agree on "Palestinian" country in A areas. the most Rightists are people like me iggysick, and more then 800,000 Jews have been expelled from Arab countries. so? we are crying about that? we have day of mourning about that? we are mentioning this in every time that we can? NO, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT CRYBABIES THAT BLAMING ISRAEL IN ALL THEIR PROBLEMS.
Those palestinians you speak of left their homes during the 1967 war; when the countries that attacked Israel told them that they could have the Jews' land once the Jews were all killed. So, they were really traitors to their neighbors. Since the 1967 war ended up with Israel winning, and gaining territory, I believe, those palestinians were not let back in. Would you let a bunch of people, who were banking on your defeat and death, back home as if nothing happened? Of course not. If these countries were so concerned about palestinians, why don't they let them move into their countries? Why is there no demand for a right of return to Kuwait, where many palestinians were kicked out? Same with Jordan and other countries.
just in case you did not know, The Palestinians were expelled in 1948 from their historical homeland, and in 1967 Israel started the war.
that is the ugliest distortion of the reality that i ever heard! 1.their historical homeland?! it's not their homeland and not historical for sure. just to refresh your memory every time I say that this is our historical homeland you and your friends tell me that you don't care what happened 2000 years ago. 2. in 1967 Israel "started" the war after weeks of treats of destruction and moving more and more Egyptians forces to Sinai. Israel attacked Egypt and after that Jordan attacked Israel. 3. in 1948 there were 800,000+ Jewish refugees that were expelled from Arab countries. interesting that 800,000 turned to 0 in Israel, and 700,000 turned to 4 million in Arab countries. you know why is that? because you are just crying and yelling all day long.
1. Even if I want to go back 2000 years, there were people living in these lands, the Canaanites, whom were the ancestors of Arabs or some historians believe they were Arabs themselves. 2. not only Israel started the war, they provoked it, in their own words they said: Menahem Begin: "In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him." Yitzhak Rabin, Israel's Chief of Staff in 1967, in Le Monde, 2/28/68: "I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to The Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it." and I thought I told you before about Dayan (Israeli defense Minisiter in 1967) tractors: "many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan stated] 'They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us.'" The New York Times, May 11, 1997" 3. you are talking about Jewish emigration to Israel, which started since before 1948, and did not stop until now, even those who are still in Iran and Morocco, are being encouraged till now to emigrate to Israel and been promised (in additional to the promised land) money and other benefits if they decided to go.
Any Jew should want to go to his homeland. And should be able to. Aren't you in your homeland imad? Where is you homeland? How did your people get it?
am I in my home land? of course not, my home land is Ramlah in Palestine, in which my grandfather, refused to leave and got killed by Israeli terrorists gangs. how did my people get it? they been living there since the beginning of history. how did your people get it?
How do you know that's your homeland, and your people weren't just one of the many people passing through, and settling.