Funny im catholic, and i have always believed in their existence. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_aliens By ARIEL DAVID, Associated Press Writer Tue May 13, 4:07 PM ET VATICAN CITY - Believing that the universe may contain alien life does not contradict a faith in God, the Vatican's chief astronomer said in an interview published Tuesday. The Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, was quoted as saying the vastness of the universe means it is possible there could be other forms of life outside Earth, even intelligent ones. "How can we rule out that life may have developed elsewhere?" Funes said. "Just as we consider earthly creatures as 'a brother,' and 'sister,' why should we not talk about an 'extraterrestrial brother'? It would still be part of creation." In the interview by the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, Funes said that such a notion "doesn't contradict our faith" because aliens would still be God's creatures. Ruling out the existence of aliens would be like "putting limits" on God's creative freedom, he said. The interview, headlined "The extraterrestrial is my brother," covered a variety of topics including the relationship between the Roman Catholic Church and science, and the theological implications of the existence of alien life. Funes said science, especially astronomy, does not contradict religion, touching on a theme of Pope Benedict XVI, who has made exploring the relationship between faith and reason a key aspect of his papacy. The Bible "is not a science book," Funes said, adding that he believes the Big Bang theory is the most "reasonable" explanation for the creation of the universe. The theory says the universe began billions of years ago in the explosion of a single, super-dense point that contained all matter. But he said he continues to believe that "God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the result of chance." Funes urged the church and the scientific community to leave behind divisions caused by Galileo's persecution 400 years ago, saying the incident has "caused wounds." In 1633 the astronomer was tried as a heretic and forced to recant his theory that the Earth revolved around the sun. Church teaching at the time placed Earth at the center of the universe. "The church has somehow recognized its mistakes," he said. "Maybe it could have done it better, but now it's time to heal those wounds and this can be done through calm dialogue and collaboration." Pope John Paul declared in 1992 that the ruling against Galileo was an error resulting from "tragic mutual incomprehension." The Vatican Observatory has been at the forefront of efforts to bridge the gap between religion and science. Its scientist-clerics have generated top-notch research and its meteorite collection is considered one of the world's best. The observatory, founded by Pope Leo XIII in 1891, is based in Castel Gandolfo, a lakeside town in the hills outside Rome where the pope has a summer residence. It also conducts research at an observatory at the University of Arizona, in Tucson. ___
So do you believe that God made the earth in 7 days and all the human races comes from Adam and Eve and incest in their family? Church knows that they can't deny life in other places, so they are trying to put a good spin on it.
They are preparing us for the TRUTH: aliens seeded us long ago and pretty much own us as we own livestock. They breed us for fresh and diverse DNA. Most of us are abducted for harvesting on a regular basis but because of mind sweeping technology we seldom remember.
Britain Opens Up Secret UFO Files "The Ministry of Defense doesn't have any evidence that our defenses were breached by alien craft," he said. "They never found one, no bits of one, that's all we can say." There is no reported instance in which Britain's Ministry of Defense found any evidence of alien activity or alien spacecraft, said Clarke http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355509,00.html
Yes that's what I believe. Even the incest part. You wouldn't even know incest was a sin if it weren't for the Bible. No other document in history said it was a sin until GOD said it. And it wasn't a sin until GOD said it was. Just like working on the sabbath was not a sin until GOD said it was. Abraham Married his sister (same father different mother) and GOD said he was his loyal servant and that HE would give land to the seed of Abraham.(the seed Abraham put in his sister.)
Do you know that incest is not only about sin, close family relation ties will cause all kind of mental handicap and deformity? Well, reading your posts, is making me think that there is some thing in your idea and at least some people are decedent of original Adam and Eve.
Yes gworld I knew that everyone does. That's because when GOD says don't do something HE attaches a curse to it. So, it only caused mental and physical problems after GOD said it was a sin, not before.
Again your wrong gworld, that 7 day figure is what the american translation of the bible said. No one has been able to truely say 7 days and most people believe from the original text that it is 7 time periods. Please try to do some bible history reading before you post nonsense thank you very much. Next post please
Actually you both are wrong. The Hebrew text says 6 days and on the 7th day GOD rested. Regrdless of what most people believe. Remember when most people believed the Earth was flat, then this Jewish guy named Christopher Columbus came along with a weired idea.
With some people believing all this nonsense, no wonder the world is in such a sh*tty state. USA simply spends too little on education.
So you think they should spend more money to teach kids GOD doesn't exist and we all came from a big accidental bang that made a pool of gob that some how turned in to stuff that made other stuff then animals then monkeys then us. And we have no divine purpose at all the only reason we are here is a cosmic fluke. Sounds like a bad story that they can't prove. I think they take enough of my tax dollars doing that already. Science isn't that trust worthy. Science said the Earth was flat. Here's one of the obvious dumb science practices. Doctors didn't know about germs, ya know how stupid scientist say if you can't see it than that means it doesn't exist. So these brilliant stupid minds would leave one operation and dip their germ infested hands in a bowl swish the germs around, and all they would do is wash their hands in a bowl of germs. Then they would go deliver a baby that would soon die of course because it was full of germs that caused infections. If they read the Bible and followed the instruction for cleaning ones self they would have know this. Leviticus 15:13 And when he that hath an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself seven days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean. Between 1879 and 1900, came the germ revolution then doctors start to wash their hands in running water 1000's of years too late. GOD knew about germs!
so telling people that they should wash their clothes proves that God knew about germs. I hate to surprise you but people and even animals were washing themselves long before bible. Also washing yourself doesn't kill germs unless you wash yourself in boiling water. If Bible said that people should wash themselves with alcohol or boiling water, may be you could have a point. You are putting some kind of meaning to a bunch of nonsense that is simply not there.
Washing in running water was the point, not just washing. Here's another couple of sanitary instructions the Bible said before anyone knew the danger of germs and bactiria: The Israelites were instructed to bury their human waste outside of camp, and to burn the waste of their animals (See Numbers 19, Leviticus 11 and 15, Deuteronomy 23:12). These sanitary practices without question saved countless lives in the Israelite camps by protecting them against infection caused by unseen germs. Meanwhile, their Egyptian peers were dying by the thousands due to "remedies" that almost always consisted of some amount of human or animal dung. The sound sanitary practices that we take for granted today only began to flourish about a 100 years ago. Bacteria Modern people in 2000 ridiculed some verses in Leviticus 13 and 14 that mention leprosy on walls and on garments. They felt this was silly and an error since leprosy is a human disease. What they were unaware of is the fact that leprosy is a bacteria, a living organism, that certainly can survive on walls and garments! In fact, the Medic-Planet.com encyclopedia notes that leprosy "can survive three weeks or longer outside the human body, such as in dust or on clothing". It is no wonder that God commanded the Levitical priests to burn the garments of leprosy victims! (Leviticus 13:52) Laws of Quarantine In the same Med-Planet encyclopedia cited above it says that "It was not until 1873 that leprosy could be shown to be infectious rather than hereditary." Of course God knew this all along, as His laws to Moses reveal (Leviticus 13, 14, 22, Numbers 19:20). His instructions regarding quarantine to prevent the spread of leprosy and other infectious diseases are nothing short of remarkable, considering that this life-saving practice was several thousand years ahead of its time. Infected persons were instructed to isolate themselves outside the camp until healed, and were to shave and wash thoroughly. The priests that administered care were instructed to change their clothes and wash thoroughly after inspecting a plague victim. It should be re-emphasized that the Israelites were the only culture to practice quarantine until the last century, when medical advances finally demonstrated the importance of sanitation and isolation during plagues. The devastating black plague of the 14th century that claimed millions of lives was not broken until the church fathers in Vienna began encouraging the public to start following the guidelines as set forth in the Bible. The promising results in Vienna compelled other cities to follow suit, and the dreaded plague was finally eradicated Still want more? This should be interesting to many reading this thread.
These are normal practices that come through experience and running water doesn't kill germs either. If God knew about all these thing and wanted to save people by giving instructions then why God didn't provide the cure for all these diseases in the Bible? Why your God made the bacteria and germs that can kill people and then try to save them by putting this kind of trivial instructions in Bible? Was he trying to show how smart he is?
They became normal practices about 100 years ago. GOD instructed the Jews to do it 3500 years ago. HE made aids too and the flu and all kinds of bacteria and germs. They all have a purpose. The First Antiseptic Hyssop oil was charged by God to Moses to be used as a purifying agent. Hyssop oil has been shown to contain 50% antifungal and antibacterial agents (Numbers 19:18, Psalm 51:7). Circumcision and Blood Clotting For centuries scholars must have been perplexed by God's law of circumcision which required the procedure to be performed on the 8th day after birth (Gen 17:12, Gen 21:14, Lev 12:3, Luke 2:21). Medical researchers recently discovered that the two main blood clotting factors, Vitamin K and Prothrombim, reach their highest level in life, about 110% of normal, on the 8th day after birth. These blood clotting agents facilitate rapid healing and greatly reduce the chance of infection. You can verify with any Obstetrician that the 8th day of life is the ideal time for a circumcision, and that any circumcision done earlier requires an injection of Vitamin K supplement. Dietary Guidelines By the 1980s, all the health organizations of the United States had adopted low-fat, high fiber dietary guidelines. This was the culmination of numerous scientific studies that had demonstrated that diets high in vegetables, fruits, and grains reduced the risk of heart disease, cancer, and many other diseases. Secular physicians generally agree that these dietary guidelines that were producing longer life spans were first developed by religious movements founded in the 1800s, particularly by the Seventh-day Adventists. Where did the Seventh-day Adventists get their guidelines? From a meticulous and careful study of the Bible. It appears man has finally caught up to the dietary recommendations given by God to the Israelites some 3500 years ago! Man from Dust Researchers at NASA's Ames Research Center confirmed that every element in man can be found in the soil, prompting one of the scientists to say "...the biblical scenario for the creation of life turns out to be not far off the mark"
Christopher Columbus didn't discover the earth was round, He wasn't even the first person to circumnavigate it. In fact, There is absolutely nothing to suggest that anyone other than the church ever believed the earth was flat. People have always assumed it was round even before it could be proven. The sun is round, the moon is round, why would people assume the earth was any different? The ancient Indians and Greeks used this very reasoning to come to their conclusion. The first person to prove the earth was round (and to calculate is circumference with reasonable accuracy) was Eratosthenes in around 270 BCE. You can even conduct his experiment and do the maths yourself. All you need is two sticks, A tape measure and a friend 2000 miles away. They don;t teach children that god doesn't exist. They teach them science, facts and what can be proven. if that happens to invalidate your god or your particular explanation for the universe along the way, well, so be it. We can't limit the science we teach children so that it doesn't invalidate your god or your primitive superstitions. It's the 21st century, get on board or get out of the way.. By the way, Do you know who come up with the big bang theory? It was Georges Lemaitre, A priest and mathematician.
What is the purpose of Aids? Is it to kill homosexuals because religious fanatics are too insecure about their masculinity?
Sorry to see you banned gworld. But to answer gworlds question. Aids looks like it's for fornication and adultery as a whole, not just gays. Aids would have a hard time getting around in any other crowed. Married people who don't commit adultery can't spread it.
That is wrong. There is a common misconception that HIV is only a sexually transmitted disease. That is not true. HIV is a blood born virus. You can be a virgin and still get the HIV virus if the blood from an HIV infected individual comes into contact with any part of your body which has an open wound. It does not need to be a large open wound, even if you had a small scrape that you don't see, it would be enough.