What religion has done the most killing in the world?

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  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #101
    And you think it is reasonable? To burn someone alive, Multiple times, then go out of your way to make sure you can burn them alive again, For not believing?

    Think about it for a second. Think about what being burned alive entails. Think about what being "roasted through" would feel like. Then think about how unbalanced someone would have to be to not only do it once, But to then replace the person skin so they can do it multiple times, Just because they didn't believe something existed.

    It isn't justice, Not for any crime, and as punishment for disbelief it is spiteful, vindictive, sadistic and barbaric.
    If there is a god, and i don't think there is, He would certainly not be capable of such spiteful, vindictive punishment for something as petty as disbelief. If you worship this animal, this tortuous monster, you need to have a sit down and have a long hard think about what type of person that makes you.
     
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  2. sweetsara

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    #102
    So you are a hitler sympathizer? All you need next is the nazi symbol on your avatar
     
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  3. stOx

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    #103
    It has nothing to do with hitler. The passage quoted says people get burned alive, Then they get given new skin by your god so he can inflict his sadistic punishment on them again and again, For not believing the signs.
     
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  4. sherytiger

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    #104
    stOx, you're such a dumb buddy. :p

    The verse about Signs of Allah has been already mentioned in the Holy Qur'an which sara already told you about.

    And this NASA discovery is totally connected with the verse which sara quoted you.

    Isn't it?
    Isn't NASA discovered a sign Of ALLAH ?

    Indeed, Allah will show everyone his signs, believers will believe and un-believers will be still having doubts in their minds.

    And you didn't tell me anything about the miracle of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) : The splitting of the moon! :)
    You still disagree with that ? :p
     
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  5. imad

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    #105
    The prophet pbuh spoke about the spread of Islam, until it conquer Constantinople (Istanbul now) 800 years later it happened, he also spoke about a time, when other nations will use the weakness in Muslims, his companions then asked him, is it because Muslims will be few? he said, no, Muslims will be so many, but just ineffective numbers, it is happening now, and he also said, despite that, Islam will be stronger than its enemies, and will spread even more,

    many says, (even those who do not believe that he is a prophet) that he was a very smart man, he could predict, and he knew that these things will happen,

    I agree he was smart, and he was also a prophet, he knew things no human being knew at that time, from big events like the conquer of Istanbul, to the smallest things that live on a fly wing, he pbuh said:

    "If a fly falls into one of your containers [of food or drink], immerse it completely (falyaghmis-hu kullahu) before removing it, for under one of its wings there is venom and under another there is its antidote. "

    for some, he might be that much smart that he even knew what lives on a fly, and that a fly carries bad bacteria, or microbes, and also carries the protection from them, for me I believe he is a true prophet of God.

    more about the fly

    http://www.55a.net/firas/english/?id=133&page=show_det
     
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  6. sherytiger

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    #106
    God bless you imad.!!
     
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    #107
    Christianism, by far. Witch hunting, all of those war for conquering in the begginings of past millenium under the premise of "god told me to do it", "god is on our side", etc.
    Still, can't be attributed to the religions itself, but to those who abused the power that religion had over people...
     
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  8. stOx

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    #108
    Yeah, The only problem is there that there isn't venom under one wing of a fly and the antidote under the other. Apart from that he was spot on :rolleyes:

    Let me ask you..... Do you think immersing a fly completely in a drink would have any effect?
     
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    #109
    Yeah, well done. You ignored all of my good points and focused completely on the quotes that I found. I wasn't paying attention to the quotes I got, and I don't really care if they're out of context, because they are simply EXAMPLES that prove my point that these books contain statements and ideas about killing and slaying others. Address my other points please. You call me uneducated and stuff but you obviously have ALWAYS believed in Allah etc... and have never looked at the world objectively. Sigh...
     
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    #110
    EXACTLY! Thank you st0x, these religious people are ovoiding the argument at hand and SIMPLY ignoring what my main points are. As I said, I don't care about the quotes, don't even bother to state why they are "out of context" because they PERMIT killing, and that's what Islam promotes.
     
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  11. wmghori

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    #111
    President Bush ordered 'kill all the iraqis'. You are quoting this. But he actually said "kill all the iraqi insurgents where ever you find during the war". Simliar kind of ordered was issued by Bush senior for the desert strom. Similar ordered were issued by the Issenhour/churchull or all the generals that commanded any army.

    I hope that clears up the "kill them all where ever you find them" issue. This ordered was issued for the war not for every day to day routine. Stop being an ignorant. Here is my last post explaining the background and circumtances for that order link
     
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    #112
    But isn't islam at war with all infidels now? I have not yet heard of islam calling off the war.
     
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    #113
    It's not the religion but the their maipulators who have made a killing($$$$$$$$$)......:eek:
     
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    #114
    And what makes you think that?
     
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    #115
    Do you think the war was called off? I haven't heard about the cease fire and obviously many of the followers haven't either.
     
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    #116
    You can't punish someone who is already dead. It's kind of like flogging a dead horse. What's the point? They ain't going to feel any pain or even any discomfort. Why? Because they are dead. God does not punish this way and will not punish this way. It defies everything he is.

    Think of this scenario:
    A man kills a dozen women and children in a country that opposes the death penalty. So, he is thrown into prison for the rest of his life. Never to be in public again. However, the authority of the prison decides to whip him every day of his life.

    Here's some questions from this scenario. Is the prisoner going to learn from this? if he is going to learn from it, what can he do about it? In other words, what is the point of continually causing pain to someone who will never get the chance to repent?

    God will discipline those who will listen and he will punish those who don't. He won't punish them now. But the time will come they will be made not to exist. Isn't that a much better light for God to be in? Remembering, he is perfect. A God that continually tortures someone is not perfect and never can be.

    This is why it is for our own benefit to learn what the Bible really teaches in these subjects.
     
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    #117
    I am Catholic, so am I responsible for Hitler's actions? Just because someone of a certain religion does a crime, even the worst crime in the history of human civilization, does not make the rest of the people who also follow his/her religion. Adolf Hitler was a "hero" to the Germans, pushed by his own insanity, and the German people, it was not his religious views that caused him to kill millions of Jews. That is like saying I am responsible for the death of Martin Luther King Jr. because I am white... I am not sure if that is what you are trying to say, but it is what I got out of it.

    Random fact: There is a group centered in California who protests that the Earth is a disc, which was proved false along time ago... And that gravity is an effect created by the Earth's constant upward motion caused by dark matter. Hundreds of years ago, the Earth was proven round. Soon enough, God will be proven real, and you will all look dumb. Just remember: when you ask to prove God is real, prove to me he isn't...
     
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    #118
    hey guys i found this...

    Recent investigations into the Inquisition

    In 2000 Pope John Paul II called for an "Inquisition Symposium", and opened the Vatican to 30 external historians. Their findings discounted many previous beliefs. It emerged that more women accused of witchcraft died in the Protestant countries than under the Inquisition. For example, the Inquisition burned 59 women in Spain, 36 in Italy and 4 in Portugal, while in Europe civil justice put to trial close to 100,000 women; 50,000 of them were burned, 25,000 in Germany, during the 16th century by the followers of Martin Luther.[
     
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  19. H3llas

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    #119
    Probably Christianism, but Islam is getting close. After first half we would have tie :)
     
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