Support my theory =\

Discussion in 'Directories' started by wounded1987, May 12, 2008.

  1. #1
    ok, my theory is as follows:

    have a website, submit to quality high linked directories > less job, more money into it > PR climes quicker and website streanth increases > traffic is coming faster > that same traffic will bring you additional link backs with low PR/high PR

    Vs

    have a website, submit to low PR and low link back directories > more job, less money involved > will take time until you see any good traffic > no traffic > no link development of the website

    hence, always have money to start a website.
     
    wounded1987, May 12, 2008 IP
  2. SilkySmooth

    SilkySmooth Well-Known Member

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    Nope, dont support it. Sorry.

    I recently opened a niche web site which was appearing no where in the search results for it's primary terms. e.g. 50th page.

    Obtained 700 PR0 links over a period of time and now I rank 9th. Now all I need is a few decent medium PR links to push me the last mile.
     
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  3. wounded1987

    wounded1987 Well-Known Member

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    yea but when google discovers you obtained those 700 PR0 back links they will know you gathered paid back links in no time, and it wont be too long until you'll find yourself on the 50th page because google will penalize you or something (if you gathered each month 100 new back links, and then you suddenly stop - because you are ran out of back links and now you move to quality back links, then they will know.), now you might also bought some directory submissions, but you need to control so many back links and it looks like a mess, wont it be better to use 5 quality back links instead, links that you know they are actually good...

    Vs

    if you obtained strong, quality 10 back links, it's completely different story since google doesn't check for what PR the links are, but for quantity.
     
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  4. SilkySmooth

    SilkySmooth Well-Known Member

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    I quite clearly stated over a period of time and I didn't in any way indicate that I had suddenly stopped building links. It is the very nature of every single web site whether it is promoted or not to develop back links both low value and high value.

    And if you think Google doesn't check for PR on inbound links you are very misguided. It was high PR selling that got the whole penalization thing started.
     
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    swedal Notable Member

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    There seems to be an element missing here!

    Where is the quality unique content for either of your scenarios?

    No content for the visitors and there will be no visitors.....
     
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    wounded1987 Well-Known Member

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    i'm talking more about paid links, and not natural linking where users will place your link on their blog, where is the most easy and fast place to get a lot of free low quality back links other then directories? i dont know such i guess

    i only know that there is a cap on how much free paid back links you can have from free directories, obviously it will go lower and lower and you will submit less links, however high quality related websites back links i think will give more

    natural linking will come over time, depends on content and traffic
     
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    There seems to be an element missing here!
     
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    hhheng Banned

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    #8
    Spend some money, it's worth it!
     
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    #9
    Free PR0 back links help your site as a part of an overall link strategy. Then can't stand on their own. Neither can all reciprocal linking or all paid high PR links. Balance is the key.

    Write good content then start with the free links to get your started. That will get you some long tail SERPs. If your content is good you'll get more links back to your site. Once you have some PR and high SERP positions you can work with other webmasters to get more links back to your site...and trade recips if you have to.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Why not mix it up with both your potential approaches.
     
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    SilkySmooth Well-Known Member

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    @swedal, yes content is obviously important but talking from a purely link building development perspective I dont support his theory.

    @pipes, sure, go ahead :D

    @wounded, don't take it personally. I just disagree with you based on what has worked for me. If your theory when put into practice works for you that is all that matters and not whether or not other people agree with you.
     
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    YMC Well-Known Member

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    #12
    What exactly is a "free paid back link" on a free directory?

    A cap on backlinks? Says who?
     
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    #13
    sometimes it will work, sometimes you will get $1 from $10 spent
     
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    In my opinion the best approach is to try to get a large variety of backlinks of different types and various PRs. Just having a few high PR directory links and nothing else wouldn't look natural, and could cause Google to devalue the links. So I suggest you get a mixture of both low and high PR listings acquired steadily over a period of time.
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Regarding PR think of a sites potential for the pr to go up, get in while its cheap, not for pr of course but because many raise prices after a pr increase.

    Todays little guppies can be tomorrows biggies.
     
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    #16
    I don't agree with this. The overwhelming majority of sites start off with few quality backlinks. Ignoring and avoiding low PR listings will make your backlink profile look unnatural. A good approach would be to use all backlink methods at your disposal.

    Compare your niche using the allinanchor operator. I've seen quite a few lower PR sites outrank higher PR sites simply because they had more incoming links with their chosen anchor text. This is not a standard, but certainly indicates low/no PR backlinks do help quite a bit.

    Good luck
     
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