Yes! Here's a couple ways of looking at it. One Way the real way. Jesus was chosen by GOD but HE still had a choice as a Heavenly being, and HE said yes! ( Amen! ) GODS perfect creation of HIS to be a sacrifice for HIS children. Jesus still celebrates the Passover Sacrifice as GODS Sacrifice to the children HE loves. Second Way not real. Jesus was not chosen by GOD but HE still was a Heavenly being, and GOD picked some other perfect creation of HIS to be a sacrifice for HIS children. Jesus would still celebrate the Passover Sacrifice as GODS Sacrifice to the children HE loves. As far fetched as it sounds everyone in Heaven will celebrate That Day! When HE rose from the dead He still sported HIS Wounds Proudly, because they mean something to HIM. They are the only wounds HE has.( HIS disciples died saying they saw this, not just they believed it. ) To die by torture because you are lying is hard to do. As far as I know these are the only men recorded in history who died by torture when all they had to do is say,"Okay I was lying, my bad." To die by torture because you've been taught something from childhood is much easier.
I'm not asking if jesus would want you celebrating his torture and execution. I asked if he would celebrate the torture and execution of someone else as a scapegoat for something he had done.
The Jesus you are creating is sinful, if HE needs to celebrate the torture and execution of a sacrifice made for him. ( He'd celebrate for sure if he wasn't an athiest or something.) However you create him to be, you can answer that for yourself. It's your story not mine.
I'm talking about a character in a book. It's a very simple question. Would jesus celebrate the torture and execution of someone who was tortured and executed for something he done? So let's stop intentionally misinterpreting the question and let's get on to an answer.
Why don't you ask him yourself? Kind of a moot point don't you think? It's like asking if Hitler would have combed his mustache if he thought it made him look nicer.
Because some people are able to form their own opinions using their own minds, Just because you have lost the capacity to think for yourself it doesn't mean every religious person has. There is still hope for some of them.
Your claims about me are hastily unfounded. You don't know me from a piece of toast. You want to give people hope huh? In what? That God does not exist and there is no hope for anyone to save the planet? What a great hope you want to preach to poeple.
It's like saying "Would st0x celebrate the torture and execution of someone who was tortured and executed for something he done?" Or like saying, would st0x fast once a week if he was a Christian or once a month. What could be so hard to answer about that? It's just a guy on a forum. So, since your the guy, would you, celebrate and fast. Yes or No.
This is what you said" What is a Cross? for you , Christians ? Do you worship a Cross ? If you really belive that Jesus died on a cross , how can you use it as jewelery , or any other goods ? ( I mean kinda using it like Idol ) Thanks" Can you ask without attacking Christians? And will you answer my question, about the moon stars and coffin and rock? I answered yours.
I am not a Christian and never been it. That is why I asked. I just wanted to learn what do Christians feel , think about Cross. And as I know Christians not allowed worship pictures too . I always see Christians using a cross. For example football players making cross when entering into the field.. and there are many examples of it. If you want to answer and if you dont worship it, it would be easy to tell that you dont worship it, it is jut a symbol, without attack. You can wright down your thoughts on it , if you want of course.
There you go post dodging. Are you going to answer my question about the coffin, moon, star, and rock. Or are you going to answer my question about how the quran came to be. The hidith says the soldiers had to gather the men who memorized it. Some say the documents were gathered and not put in order, just put in order by length. I guess GOD knew, that when He chose a prophet who couldn't read or write this would happen. You enlighten us here if you will, with truth so we may not waste time in the dark. If allah is GOD I will surrender myself and worship him. But, if YAHWEH is GOD will you surrender yourself and worship HIM?
There is no winner, we both want to make it to Heaven. We're not there yet so we haven't won yet. Of course I have much to say but the debate always ends in me answering all the questions and getting no answers to mine. I answer honestly. Even when I make a mistake, it was an honest mistake. All I want is answers. You knew the answer to the cross question. You just asked to try and smear shame on cross bearers. That's cool it happens. I answered it none the less. Your sig has the blog you promote. You speak well enough english to have asked that question many times.
Tell me some others. Besides torture to make a person say they did something. And people who would have been killed anyway.
See you got an answer, but you asked anyway, but still haven't given one answer yet. Can we get some answers. There are many people dying for not honoring that rock, moon and star symbol, and the coffin of muhammed. Can we atleast get some insight on the importance of those things.