Very Interesting Question/Doubt About Google Adsense?

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by JohnDust, May 6, 2008.

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  1. #1
    Hey everybody!

    I got a rather weird questions and would like to know if this is profitable.

    I know that google adsense works based on CTR and keywords etc etc.


    What i am really wondering is that, what if i were to provide a service that gives you like around 50-200 unique IP clicks to any of your Google Ads.

    Now much could i earn based on this? Just an approximate figure.

    I am not too sure how else i can put this, but in laymen terms what i mean is that if you got a site running google adsense and earning like USD1.10 per click and if i could provide 50-200 unique IP clicks on your ADVERTISEMENT, you could definitely earn more right, and for providing for such a service i would charge.

    Would that work?

    Thanks for reading this and helping me clear this doubt/question i have.

    Regards
    John
     
    JohnDust, May 6, 2008 IP
  2. corb

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    Interesting idea! Several issues before taking this on.
    The higher the ratio of views-to-clicks, the less each click will be worth. (generally speaking).
    Then there's the whole moral thing, and risk of getting caught, but I'm sure I don't need to detail all of that. Your 50-200 unique ip's would probably need to be unique every day...like tomorrow you'd need 50 more unique ip addresses. Otherwise they'd get flagged and blah blah

    In all honesty, your service may be a lot more profitable if it were to give 50-200 unique ip page views a day instead of clicks. In theory, it will raise the amount of money each legitimate click gives.
     
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    shenron Notable Member

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    #3
    A couple things:

    1 - I doubt there is still a niche paying that high, you'll be smartpriced in less than 3 days
    2 - Google would get you easily, don't believe me? you should... you get banned in less than a month, and anyone will.

    for 500 clicks you should have at least 5000 visitors considering a huge CTR of 10%... I doubt it's worth you worries...
     
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    JohnDust Banned

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    Thanks alot for the comments, well thats true. Also i would like to mention that the clicks are fully unique they are not automated in anyway. So i dont think google would have any reason banning the person for.

    Lets just say i have an army of atleast 50-300 people across a certain region that would be interested in clicks ads or providing page views.

    Tomorrow a fresh number of unique IP address not the same bunch.

    Would that work>?
     
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    Than being said John, I think Google would notice all the clicks coming from a particular region and start banning that region.

    Don't think others have tried to swindle Google... .ad dollars is BIG business and I'm more than sure Google has a handle on all the tricks in the book as well as remedies to combat against it.

    :)
     
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    Won't work. Your customers will be banned.
     
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    JohnDust Banned

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    Alrite, thanks for the comments guys even if they are unique as ever just like you and me? :)
     
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    #8
    What you are asking is how much you should charge to commit fraud so both you and other people can benefit while advertisers lose out.

    Might be worthwhile researching prison sentences associated with fraud in your area and see whether you think it would be worthwhile spending xx years in prison for the sake of a few dollars.

    Google have enough processing power to unravel any pattern of systematic fraud you plan... it might work in the short term, but in the long-term it will be caught and discounted.
     
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    geekology Well-Known Member

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    ....probably If you can give an answer to my question:

    Would you like to be an advertiser in a network (read Adwords) where you get clicks but no conversions/leads?
     
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    Alrite, thank you so much for the information. So is there anyway i could provide this sort of traffic that are willing to click on any ads for a different network for a specific price?
     
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    so basically you thinking about a click fraud network which will make fraud click on publisher's ad? i don't like the idea at all. adwords advertisers pay for the ads and they would not like their hard earned money to be wasted by fraud clicks. i'm sure you would not like that either if you were adwords advertiser. think of ethical ways of making money, not unethical ways by screwing others. karma always catches up with us
     
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    Aww geez, not another one of these. I'm sure some folks would chomp at the bit to get your fraudulent clicks, then probably come after you after they got banned.
     
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    Nope wasn't thinking of click fraud, because the IP's are human based. What i mean by that is, they are going to come from real people nothing fake about it.

    Rather then that i understand, thanks for all the help guys.

    Much appreciated.

    I will just convert the 200 unique IP address to traffic then.
     
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    Click fraud is click fraud. It matters not whether it's a human clicking illegitimately or a computer doing automated clicking.
     
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    #15
    are you suggesting fraudlent clicks? i hope you get banned from adsense and DP. do you not use AdWords yourself? if you did, you might appreciate how important each click is, and that we DO NOT want to spend our money simply to line somebody elses pockets for coming up with and participating in ridiculous ideas like this.
     
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    and don't fool yourself. Google is watching this thread too. :)

    The big G has its eyes everywhere. Be very careful on what you do..
     
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