Hilary Clinton should be rightful winner of Democratic Party contest

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by tradester, Mar 6, 2008.

  1. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #101
    You mean like with Bush's prescription drug program, and No Child Left Behind?

    Please, you wannabe conservatives don't have a clue about the principles of limited government. You're just as bad the DEMs. Christ, with Bush you might be even worse.
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #102
    Gee, I'm surprised you didn't slip that there Fox News in there too.. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #103
    IF elected or appointed or through world domination I am dictator of said world and/or United States I can guarantee reforms of the tax system, public heath, public education, and all other systems. >.>
     
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  4. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #104
    Fox, LGF, Hot Air, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly etc.

    Today's young Republicans (under 40) are for the most part, badly retarded.

    They don't understand party principles, they don't understand the foundations or philosophy behind conservatism.

    The anti-intellectualism is sad, because I always thought that the socialist liberals were the dumb ones. But the reich wingers are like insolent brain damaged monkeys, screaming, "you're a liberal, i pick my nose and eat it, nyaaah, nyaaah".

    It's enough to make a guy join the Constitution Party.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #105
    I think you are mistaking liberals for conservatives here. Don't worry, we all get old and when that happens, the mind starts to go... But hey, now you know.
     
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  6. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #106
    Constitution party is nothing more than a jingoist party that uses the name Constitution to make itself look better. Libertarian is more in line with Jeffersonian ideals of state power and equality with federal power than the constitution party.
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #107
    Then there is the party of Ron Paul

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  8. Jackuul

    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #108
    Well at least Paul would mean change rather than the same crap every four years. If you shovel crap in - you get crap out.

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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #109
    You'd think that Bush has been president the last 232 years the way everyone carries on about it... Good think he was for at least the last 7 +.
     
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  10. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #110
    I know. Plus, the Constitution Party is the no fun party.

    Hence why I used it as a melodramatic example of how frustrated I am!

    The LP has really gone downhill. They have decided to stop trying to educate, and focus solely on gaining power. I'd avoid that party like the plague.
     
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  11. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #111
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    LogicFlux Peon

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    #112
    I think the Rev Wrong stuff is really going to hurt Obama in the general with independents. I don't see that story going away now that Rev Wrong has made it clear that he wants to soak up his 15 minutes of spotlight as much as possible.
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #113
    I think Obama might have done something to piss of Wright... I'm guessing this rift runs a bit deeper than just the racist remarks that pastor makes and has made in his sermons.

    Seems Skynet is alive and well:

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    #114
    Jackul you rock dude:D:p, now that is an accurate portrayal if i ever seen one.
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #115
    You mean this:
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    #116
    So you don't think bombing Iraq for 10 years was the cause of anything?
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #117
    You'd have to be an idiot to see it any other way.. ;)

    "Iraq: Now vs. Then
    First, ending the brutal regime of Saddam Hussein.

    Since Saddam was overthrown, investigators have found dozens of mass graves, in which more than 300,000 Iraqis were buried.
    Ending the theft of billions of dollars from the Iraqi people. Saddam stole more than $11 billion from the U.N.'s oil-for-food program.
    Ending the threat that weapons of mass destruction will be developed and used. Saddam's regime manufactured chemical and biological weapons and, at one point, actively pursued nuclear weapons.
    Second, quality of life.

    So far, 2,500 schools have been renovated, with another 800 to be finished soon.
    Almost 9 million new math and science textbooks have been printed and distributed.
    The health care system is now open to all Iraqis, with 30 percent more people now using the facilities. Doctors, who used to get $20 a month, now earn up to $180. Modern medication such as cancer drugs are now available, something unheard of during the Saddam years.
    Third, human rights.

    Since the end of Saddam, a fully functioning legal and judicial system has been developed. More than 600 judges are working in courtrooms across the country. Iraqis charged with crimes now have rights that would have been laughed at under the old regime: the right to remain silent when they're arrested; the right to a fair, speedy and open trial; the right to a defense lawyer at all stages of the process.
    Iraqis now enjoy freedom of speech. Now, 120 papers are being published, some of them critical of the U.S. The coalition has shut down only two papers, which it said were inciting violence.
    Internet cafes.
    Satellite dishes.
    Finally, the economy and infrastructure.

    There's a new currency in Iraq.
    Iraq's most important resource, oil, is showing a strong revival. Production now exceeds pre-war levels, averaging half a million barrels a day more than when Saddam was forced from power.
    By this summer, the average Iraqi will have electricity for 16 hours a day, 40 percent above pre-war levels. Under Saddam, only half of the country had access to clean drinking water. Now extensive renovations of water plants have brought cleaner water to more people, almost 15 million, on a more reliable basis.
    Baghdad airport now has 43 passenger flights a day, including regular commercial service to Jordan.
    Now, more than 340,000 Iraqis have cell phones. When Iraqis make a call now, they say no one is listening in.
    Since President Bush declared an end to major hostilities in Iraq on May 1

    the first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on active duty.
    over 60,000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.
    nearly all of Iraq's 400 courts are functioning.
    the Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.
    all 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are open, as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.
    teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.
    all 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.
    pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700 tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.
    the Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccinations to Iraq's children.
    a Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq's 27,000 kilometers of weed-choked canals which now irrigate tens of thousands of farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men and women.
    we have restored over three-quarters of prewar telephone services.
    there are 4,900 full-service telephone connections. We expect 50,000 by year-end.
    the wheels of commerce are turning. From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.
    95 percent of all prewar bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.
    Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.
    the central bank is fully independent.
    Iraq has one of the worlds most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.
    Iraq has a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.
    foreign journalists aren't on 10-day visas paying mandatory and extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information for "minders" and other government spies , they (and everyone else) are free to come and go
    there is no Ministry of Information.
    a nation that had not one single element - legislative, judicial or executive - of a representative government, now does.
    in Baghdad alone residents have selected 88 advisory councils. Baghdad's first democratic transfer of power in 35 years happened when the city council elected its new chairman.
    today in Iraq chambers of commerce, business, school and professional organizations are electing their leaders all over the country.
    25 ministers, selected by the most representative governing body in Iraq's history, run the day-to-day business of government.
    the Iraqi government regularly participates in international events. Since July the Iraqi government has been represented in over two dozen international meetings, including those of the UN General Assembly, the Arab League, the World Bank and IMF and, today, the Islamic Conference Summit. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs today announced that it is reopening over 30 Iraqi embassies around the world.
    Shia religious festivals that were all but banned, aren't.
    for the first time in 35 years, in Karbala thousands of Shiites celebrate the pilgrimage of the 12th Imam.
    the Coalition has completed over 13,000 reconstruction projects, large and small, as part of a strategic plan for the reconstruction of Iraq.
    Uday and Queasy are dead - and no longer feeding innocent Iraqis to the zoo lions, raping the young daughters of local leaders to force cooperation, torturing Iraq's soccer players for losing games, or murdering critics.
    children and political opponents aren't imprisoned, tortured, executed, maimed, or are forced to watch their families die for disagreeing with Saddam or the government .
    millions of longsuffering Iraqis no longer live in perpetual terror.
    Saudis will hold municipal elections.
    Qatar is reforming education to give more choices to parents.
    Jordan is accelerating market economic reforms.
    the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian -- a Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace.
    Saddam has been captured and his infamous sons are dead.
    Iraq is free."

    http://patriotpost.us/news/iraq.asp
     
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  18. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #118
    That Patriot Post stuff is propaganda Mia. I've never seen ONE report from the press, American or otherwise that paints the picture that way.

    I do know that women in Iraq are now harassed for going out without a hijab. Under Saddam, women wore western clothes and did not have to cover their heads.

    The Iraqi medical system under Saddam was known as the jewel of the Middle East. Iraq also had a very good education system.

    It is curious that they forget to mention that amidst all of the prosperity, the Iraqis overwhelming want US troops out.

    Or that their own government attacked a hospital the other day.

    Or that the ruling party are Iranian Shia terrorists who bombed the US embassy in Kuwait.

    Like I said, propaganda.
     
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  19. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #119
    Hey Mia, do you post this stuff anywhere other than DP?

    My tolerance for stupidity is at a low ebb, so I don't spend much time here these days.

    I'd love to read your posts, and the posts of a few other people here, without having to wade through all of the mindless Paulista propaganda.

    Or, perhaps we could create a political forum which required everyone to pass an IQ test before they could post.
     
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    #120
    That would be an awesome thing. So how do we set it up? When AGS gets recorded at 80, we ban his IP, so he cannot get his mom to get him in?
     
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