Real or Just More Misleading Propaganda?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Jim Guinn, May 4, 2008.

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    What do you think? Watch the movie on the home page and a few more inside this website. What do you think? I found them rather disturbing.

    http://usawakeup.org/
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    I watched for 10 seconds, 8 seconds too much, just the usual BS.
     
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    This website is terrible. A person needs the mentality of a 4 year old to take it seriously.

    In fact, I no longer take people who say "Islamo-fascism" seriously.

    It's not a fusion word like "rap-metal". We all know what rap metal is. Heavy metal with a rap singer for vocals.

    No one knows what Islamo-fascism is. Fascism is corporatism. The Muslims are not trying to buy up the west.
     
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    LOL...Interesting answer since the first 10 seconds doesn't even get you to the introduction, so it appears like you have your mind made up already...and, you are a Ron Paul supporter?

    Jim
     
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    Another interesting answer. So one has to have the mentality of a 4 year old to take this site seriously just because they use the word "Islamo-Facism"? LOL

    And, to say "Fascism is corporatism" is really a stretch.

    I guess I should have asked people to TRY and look at this with an open mind. There is some very interesting info and numbers.

    I guess like most things, it is getting tougher and tougher for people not to get their biases in the way.

    Jim




     
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    Just smart enough to recognize the same BS that has been repeated many times before. ;)
     
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    Then you must be psychic since no information was given in the first 10 seconds. You just anticipated what was going to be said. Once again, it appears you have your mind made up that you can judge a source without any information. That has nothing to do with how smart you are.
     
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    USA will be reduced to second class economic power as that site predicts but not because of some kind of "atomic 9-11", it will be because of the greed and incompetence of people who are running USA. Why should they risk a war when all they need to do is to wait a couple of years? :rolleyes:
     
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    What is fascism then?

    And for that matter, what the hell is "Islamo-Fascism"?
     
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    Very good! Now, you watched about 25 seconds of the movie.

    BTW...the movie is a few minutes long...perhaps past your attention span.

    It also deals with immigration. Did you know that (and these are facts)

    -The Annuals US population growth is 3.3 million

    -Each year there are approximately 850,000 new illegal aliens

    -Each year there are about 1,000,000 legal immigrants

    -Each year there are about 900,000 births to foreign born

    -That makes about 86% of our annual population growth due to immigration

    OK...I here the argument coming..."We were all immigrants at one time!"....

    Did you know history has proven that a democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will exist up to the time the voters (Not the government as you would like to blame in your last post) discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.

    From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates that promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse under loose fiscal policy, (which is) usually followed by a dictatorship. (This beginning to sound familar?)

    The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history is about 200 years.

    During those 200 years, the nations have progressed through the following sequece:

    -From bondage to spiritual faith
    -from spiritual faith to great courage
    -From great courage to liberty
    -from liberty to abundance
    -From abundance to complacency
    -From complacency to apathy
    -From apathy to governmental dependency
    -From govermental dependency to bondage

    This is really starting to sound familar....and it is the nation, not the government. "We the people....".

    So, the movie does cover a number of points, but you don't seem interested.

    How about this one, then - How to Destroy America: http://usawakeup.org/HowToDestroyAmerica.htm

    Aw, forget it; you'll probably click off that one, too.

    Have a good day. Good chatting back and forth on the forum with you.

    Jim
     
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    Facism is usually a form of goverment that is centralized under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror or censorship, and typically a policy of beligerant nationalism and racism.

    If it is not already a "government" it can also be defined as a political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system.

    Now, put Islamo in front of that, and that is what we are talking about, (Islamic people who advocate facism according to their views) but did you watch that complete part of the movie?

    And, read the sequences a democracy goes through as history has taught us....my previous post.

    You guys really need to come up with some substance other than just shooting off your mouths. You may say it is your opinions, but by definition, opinions need to be based on something of substance, not just what you hear on the news or talk radio.

    Jim
     
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    USA already had it's 200 years, so you must agree with me that there is no need for "atomic 9-11", they just need to wait couple of more years. :D

    You know what is really wrong with USA, all the people who complain about immigration and their mentality that we are too weak and lazy to compete with immigrants and need walls all around us, so they don't come and take our jobs. It was a time that Americans were not afraid of anything and would take any competition head on. Now they just become a scared little boys who go to gun shops and buy big guns and then sit home and complain that government should protect them from all these immigrants who are smarter and more hard working than they are. :rolleyes:

    I really miss the old America. :(
     
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    #13
    You're probably, and sadly, correct. We'll do ourselves in before the terrorists....that's one way to foil their plots against us... :p

    Like you, I also miss the old America. So many Americans today suffer from the me, me, me's, and that is diametrically opposed to what built this formerly great country.

    Jim
     
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    my theory is that is a made up word by neocons to win Florida.
     
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    Another Einstein heard from. :p
     
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    There are so many things changed in such a short time and I don't why. Just from top of my head, Americans used to be brave, now they are scared of their own shadows. I am right now in Spain and these people have had civil war and so many terrorist attacks but unlike American they are not afraid of every shadow.
    Americans used to be strong and take the competition head on. It was Americans who wanted free trade, so they can go to other markets and compete but now they have one of the most protectionist economies that is scared to death of competition.
    Americans used to think that let's the best man win, now they say I am afraid of immigrants, so let's not let them to compete.
    It was a time that Americans had principals and the bad guys in the movies were Russians and Chinese who tortured prisoners and the American hero killed them but now American heroes in the movies compete with the bad guys on who is the best torturer.

    It is sad state of affair, when such a great nation went down the tube in such a short time. :(
     
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    they want to scare the little old jewish ladies of florida so they won't vote based on what they always do social security,health care, cost of living increases and thinks like that.
    compare to some even monkey is an Einstein:p:p
     
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    Jim,

    Can you tell me who the (sic) Islamo-Fascists are?

    The nationalistic, racist, socialist/corporatists, dictatorial muslims? Who are they?
     
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    Well, I'll tell you for sure it is made up. It doesn't even make a lick of sense.

    The Israelis are more fascist than the Islamic militants/terrorists/fundamentalists.
     
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    #20
    it makes a lot of sense
    a- wining florida is almost a must for either party to win
    b-jewish new york retirees in florida are a big block of vote
    c-they usually vote democratic because of the social economic issues
    d-they are the most sensetive to the word fascist
    e-fear is the favorite message of neocons
    f-somebody made up the word and send a memo to the republican machine to use it
    it makes sense to me
     
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