do you believe in God?why?

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  1. whiteblue1942

    whiteblue1942 Peon

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    #61
    the law of conservation of mass and the law of conservation of energy states simply matter can not be created nor destroyed.....

    well...theres a lot of energy and a lot of crap out there...even if big bang theory (matter that already existed was redistributed into new things like earth,life,etc...) is true all the energy and matter int he world still had to originate from somewhere. and since it cant be created, where did it all come from?
     
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  2. felzafndy

    felzafndy Banned

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    #62

    who creat our first father and mother man :confused::confused::confused:
     
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    #63
    OK, I take the risk of being banned, because I'm not going to censure myself over such things as religion : I find them so stupid that I have no respect whatsoever in believers, I think that if they are so dumb as to still believe in what they've been taught despite all the available information on the internet, it means they're not worthy of ANY respect because they simply don't want to question their own beliefs.

    Now about the stupid question : if everything in so wonderful, who has created it?
    My answer is : not everything has to have an answer, and not knowing an answer is not a good enough reason to take the first explanation with magic beings such as god.

    Now ban me, or give another warning, for saying that believers are obviously STUPID but at least I said my truth.
     
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  4. felzafndy

    felzafndy Banned

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    #64
    ok then who created our first mother and mother ? please answer me befor you r banned :)
     
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  5. cientificoloco

    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #65
    they had parents too, and so on (let me warn you that their parents may have been a little different than us, don't get shocked by knowing that)
     
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    felzafndy Banned

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    #66
    ok then who created our first mother and father ?
     
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    #67
    they wont answer because they have no answer, evolution and the big bang theory have FAR more errors and flaws that any religion.

    and besides even if you believe thats all true why would you try to destroy peoples religious beliefs? even if they are wrong, they believe in good values, morals, and ethics, and are taught to love all so why try to ruin that? for the sake of something you believe but can not ever prove?
     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #68
    OK, technically we didn't have a first mother and father
     
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    #69
    Technically, you don't know that for certain ;)
     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #70
    right, but it is much more likely than us having a father and a mother made by the flying spaghetti monster (or by another version of this kind of 'hypotheses')
     
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    #71
    not everything has to have an answer, and not knowing an answer is not a good enough reason to take the first explanation with magic beings such as god.

    restated : it's not because without your theory of god, some things could not (yet) be explain that it means the god theory is correct, can you understand that? It's possible that there are things with no explanations because we haven't found the explanation.

    God creating things is so much a fairy tales like story that I'm surprised grown up people can't see it through, but I know why it is so :
    when young people (children) are taught about the god fairy tale, their brain is forming and they base their conception of the world, the reality, based on God. So if later in life they are tempted to remove the god theory because of the fairy tale nature of the thing, it becomes very difficult for them, because their whole reality is based on god creating everything.

    That's the problem and that's why teaching religion to children should be illegal, because it is fucking up their mind for the rest of their lives.
     
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    #72
    Technically, you are entitled to believe this. But that was not the point.
     
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    #73

    cool

    :eek::eek::eek:

    i will ask you a crzy question do you believe in any thing ?

    do you believe that the world even exists ?

    when you watched the matrix ( the movie ) do u were afraid that this movie may be true

    look the existance if God is the only explnation of the existance of you

    if you donot believe in it you are not hurting me or u are not hurting god

    you are hurting your self


    another question ?

    what make you donot steal from people or kill them ?

    i donot do that because i am afraid that god will punish me

    you donot do that because the police officer will punish me


    so when i am slave to god thats free me of being a slave for any one stronger than me why ?

    because god protect us
     
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    #74
    Wow, Really? Think about that for a second. The only reason you don't steal or kill people is because you are afraid of the punishment. Not because you have compassion, Empathy and a sense of fairness (which are the reasons an atheist doesn't do it). You don't do it solely because you are afraid of the punishment.

    Think about what kind of person that makes you.
     
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    #75
    That isn't an argument for or against anything, it's just you demonstrating the limitations of your own ability to understand things and accepting the first answer that gives you an excuse to stop thinking.

    Science has nothing to do with god, it works completely independent of your personal delusions. If in the process science makes a discovery that disproves a claim made by your religion, such as creation, Then so be it. Science is there to increase our understanding, Which is naturally seen as a threat to organised religion.

    atheists don't have to answer to god because they don't believe there is one. Just like you don't answer to Thor, Zeus or Vishnu. By your logic you are scared to face up to your responsibility to Thor, Zeus and Vishnu, Right?
    We are all Atheists, I just go one god further than you.

    They certainly do... You are talking about the religious here right?

    It will if i have a treatable medical condition.

    The funny thing is, The religious use science to improve their health but atheists never use religion. So it seems you have far more "faith" in our method than we have in yours.
     
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    #76
    i believe in God.
    i think God begins where knowledge ends.
     
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    #77
    I most certainly do not. Mainly because there isn't really physical proof of his existence. Evolution seems to be a more logical solution to how we have gotten here. And I hate the hypocrisies of religion. Those groups who praise god, yet they are willing to fight wars over what they believe is right when god wants peace. Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!

    I go to church, but thats just because the people there are really nice, and the lesson in life taught is valuable, but they relation to god is something I totally disregard.
     
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    #78
    then god is farther and farther every day
     
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    #79
    He's so far away the mooninites are looking for him

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    #80
    That was a statement, I wasn't arguing with anyone until now.

    Thats called idolatry. Satan wants to discredit God. Atheists discredit God, so that means that their working with Satan.

    huh????? and you criticize my logic:rolleyes: A Theist is someone who believes in God, an Atheist is someone who doesn't believe in God. There are a lot of people who believe in a god. so no, we're not all Atheists. I don't know how to explain it any simpler than that. Thats like saying we're all creationists, I just go one god closer than you.:p

    The only reason you don't believe in God is because you can't proof Him scientifically. Evolutionists say that we came from the big bang, however I've never seen any scientific proof for a "big bang" or explosion coming out of nothing. Talk about "personal delusions"...
    Funny why there are trees standing up in the geological column.
    Funny why lots of the missing links we find today are still living....And why don't we have MORE missing links? strange.
    Funny why most of the carbon dating is found to be flawed, admitted by evolutionists themselves. Lots of living animals have been dated at millions of years. How do they know which date is right if the living animals are dated incorrectly?

    The only way anyone could support the idea of a big bang is if they said that there was some kind of being or matter that could have possibly existed before this explosion.

    I thought is was survival of the fittest, according to evolution. Is that fair? In your opinion, does fairness have something to do with how we evolved?
     
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