A soldier was killed in Iraq in a IED blast. The insurgents found a "USB Flash Drive" near the wrecked humvee. Which contained a film, a marine was sending it to his family. In that film the marine said: We were told that you will go and fight Fighters. But we instead kill civilians. We were told that there are Mass Destruction weapons. We never found them yet. Why are we here?........ So...? is that a propaganda too? huh...? I don't get you?
Until I see it, that is nothing but propaganda. That sounds EXACTLY like the type of fabricated story I would expect from the insurgents. That does not sound at all like something coming from someone in the US military, whether they support the war or not. There is no factual evidence that we are there killing innocent civilians. US troops are conducting themselves in a much more civil manner than any enemy we have ever faced, especially when it comes to the insurgents who don't seem to really give a damn who they kill. Try criticizing the real murderers in Iraq.
TechEvangelist, you have no idea what you are talking about. I recommend you do some research, read the Congressional testimony of the experts, as well as Gen. Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker. It sounds like you're informed by Fox News, and as studies show, 70% of Fox viewers have the fundamentals of the Iraq scenario completely wrong.
And so do CBS, NBC, ABC, etc.... nobody has a better idea than the people who are there themselves. Never trust the news anymore, they're no more than just a bunch of propagandistic media that blows things way out of context and only paints a picture of what it wants to paint, in other words portrays things as they aren't really. Your stats are lacking any foundation. Show proof of your studies as I know they aren't realistic.
I think you owe me an apology. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/p...security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc http://www.current.org/news/news0319study.shtml
How do you plant an IED without the homeowners in the nearest home not noticing it? The marines lost man to that IED, and everyone acted like they didn't know anything was going one, Also this case is from 2006
Hmm I guess during conflicts a person in a near by home must always be looking out the window, and even the thought that they might have known about it is proof that they are guilty and reason to be shot up? People are outside of my house a lot, I do not spy on them to see what's up. In an area with gun fire and the such going on something tells me people do not look out the window all the time
Yeah they might have seen the insurgents planting the IED. But they were killed because they didn't understood what were the US soldiers saying, they didn't understand english. And also this might be:
You guys are still dwelling on a single, very isolated and old incident. That is not evidence that the US is killing civilians. Once incident is not proof of evil intent on the part of the military. Keep in mind that this is a war and not a Boy Scout campout. The overwhelming percentage of civilians being murdered in Iraq are through malicious attacks by the insurgents who have no regard for any collateral deaths. I see so much criticism from Muslims every time an isolated incident takes place where a few civilians are killed by the US military, yet there is no criticism or the real murders in Iraq who have slaughtered Iraqis by the thousands. These are the same people who cut off heads, gouge out eyeballs, and commit other atrocities on a regular basis. That's accepted, but strip a few captured insurgents naked or threaten them or hurt their self esteem, and you have a Abu Ghraib incident that calls for condemnation of the US military. I cannot recall a single war in the history of the planet where the conquerers have behaved better that the US military has in Iraq. Put this into perspective, people. In aggregate, what the US military has been accused of doing is infinitesimally minuscule compared to the torture, abuse and murder perpetrated almost every day by Muslim insurgents in Iraq.
TechEvangelist, what Muslim insurgents? You keep talking about the casualties as "Muslim insurgents". Are they Iraqi citizens? Are they Sunni? Shia? It's silly to brand everyone an "insurgent". We're the occupiers. Anyone who wants to dislodge the occupation is "an insurgent", of course, I have a hard time understanding how so many could be considered insurgents in their own country. If China invaded the US and took over Washington, would you be an insurgent for fighting the occupation forces? or would you be a freedom fighter? a terrorist? What would you call yourself?
100% disagree with you. They are the worst. How do you say they are good? and going good? They are killed everyday in ieds, mortars, sniper etc.. But I never heard they killed a single insurgent. Yeah they do but once in a month. If its not against the rules, I'll post the link to the site that has the video of a dead US Soldier. You will see what he says in his message to his family. Thumbs up! I agree with you.
US soldiers fight in order to:- 1) get hige oil & gas 2) support aviation industry 3) support and thrive weapons industry 4) to prove point to world that they can attack any country at will 5) support domestic economy 6) powerful politicians in US run companies get huge orders in the name of reconstructing turmoiled(by them) countries....and so on
i totally agreed with you , This war destroyed their country and of course all people are turning against them.
If certain members of the citizens were on the side of the occupying force, you bet your ass. Iraq however is a totally different situation, different power struggle going on. You also have to remember we as the US armed forces have nice accurate weapons, while those we are against do not.
Yeah.. In iraq the insurgents kill those who help US soldiers. Even with accurate and expensive weapons they are dieing everyday for nothing. Why don't the US remove their soldiers from IRAQ. What are they there for?
I'm not branding everyone as insurgents and I'm not referring to all the casualties as Muslim insurgents. I'm referring to the victims of the insurgents, which consist of the victims of the internal terrorists that are killing far more innocent Iraqis than we have ever been accused of killing. Call it a civil war or call it what you want. Our own military casualties are minuscule in comparison to Iraqi casualties in which we played no part. I agree that we are the occupiers, but the bulk of the attacks and murders within the country are not directed at us. These guys are just killing each other. I'm almost at the point where I might actually agree with Ron Paul regarding his plan to withdraw all American troops from foreign countries and stop playing world policeman. It might be better to just let everyone kill each other and put our emphasis on building fortress America. Excellent point!