The Palestinians cutting the hand that feed them, again!

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  1. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #221
    Likewise, in each of those deals the Palestinians committed to stop attacking Israel. That have never happened. Israel is still under constant attack even after its concessions. It seems neither side is getting what it was promised, right?
     
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  2. sweetsara

    sweetsara Peon

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    #222
    You are right Imad, the only option left is to fight. I think Israel will eventually collapse anyway, there is no way it can continue in its current state that it is in, it is slowly falling apart, with the humiliating defeat by the couragous Hizbullah among worsening relations with Arab countries in the region.

    Rubbish, Israel broke the ceasfires, Palestinians retaliated, Israel retaliated to the retaliation, Palestinians retaliate to the realitated reataliation and so on...
     
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  3. imad

    imad Peon

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    #223
    of course wrong, if what you said is true, then we will have only Oslo, but on hold, till Palestinians stop attacking Israel.
     
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  4. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #224
    Israel is not being attacked? What was wrong?

    I made it clear that I though neither side was getting what it was supposed to out of Oslo. The Palestinians do not have their state and Israel does not have peace.

    What do you want - Israel to give up land without getting the peace it is promised?


    Yes of course, it is all Israel's fault. The Palestinians bear no resposibility. Hamas and Hezbullah are doing God's work. Did I get your load of bullshit right?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #225
    first of all this is not the real world so there are less interference.
    second i think i have a solution for most of your differences.
    third and the most important is when you two agree then you should be willing to settle. and you can not point fingers or blame each other at all. no wasting time.
    if a solution is found i am sure that everyone in dp can digg it. so maybe you two can achieve something for your people.
    this would be a fun experience i think. i want a few millions if it works lol
     
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  6. sweetsara

    sweetsara Peon

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    #226
    Why shouldn't Palestinians attack Israel? Give me one good reason. Peace has been tried loads of times, Israel broke its side of the deal, so now, the only option is to resist with force.
     
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  7. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #227
    everyone please
    this is exactly what your leaders call negotiations also
    useless food fightstops nothing is going to get done.
    you are the proof that i am right
     
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  8. sweetsara

    sweetsara Peon

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    #228
    Pizzaman it is easy to say to stop from the outside, but if you have been messed about and massacred as much as the poor Palestinians then you would see they have no choice.

    The world and UN needs to take responsibility and blockade Israel and provide Gaza and the Westbank with more resources
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #229
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=34bVcLMrcRs
    its a little old but it still holds
     
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  10. sweetsara

    sweetsara Peon

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    #230
    To me it is more of the same, how many peace processes have Israel destroyed, what is stopping them from making a mess of just 1 more?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #231
    here is another one israeli soldiers/palestanians fighter for peace a must watch
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBr7NRyp3uw
    nothing can stop this peace process from failure other than the will of the people
     
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  12. sweetsara

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    #232
    Are you going to answer me? What is stopping Israel from making a mess of another peace process?
     
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  13. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #233
    You advocate for war and wonder why war is the result.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #234
    no guarantees , but the conditions are good. it is up to the people
    did you see the video can you answer the question
    i chose imad because he is palestanian you are not sitting in warm home making choices for other people
     
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    #235
    Israel advocates war, as you do. I advocate powerful resistance! :D

    I'll watch it in a bit, i'm a little busy right now but what you are saying is the same record over and over from the earlier peace processes, hope for the people, peace, blah blah, but then Israel goes and bombs a family or shoots a kid in the head. Great. :rolleyes:

    The difference is, if the Palestinians get a fair peace deal, they should take it and run but Israel has not kept it's side of the deal in the past, so they can't be trusted. Say for example, they do get a peace deal, but Israel brakes it again, what then? What will your stance be?
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #236
    arabs and israeli have a common problem now.iran
    people have to make sure that atmosphere is improved and have to push for peace
     
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  17. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #237
    Israel has peace with Egypt
    Israel has peace with Jordan

    Perhaps it is the Palestinian actions that result in military action in Palestinian areas. I know you would rather think, as you were taught, that Israel just likes to shoot kids for no reason. But one must look at what is happening. Israel has no problems making peace with Arabs and Muslims (see Egypt and Jordan). Israel does have a problem with being attacked so it seems that you might want to consider that is the reason for military response.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #238
    you are correct this is a good example of how it works for both side
    in order to have peace you do not need trust
    in order to have peace you do not need love
    in order to have peace you do not need respect
    in order to have peace you do need war
    all conditions are already made and it even works here lol
    if imad and ohad agree we make a peace tread
    there is no fault that we can find that can help us archive harmony
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #239
    In order to have peace, arabs have to stop lobbing bombs at innocent people for their god.
     
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    #240
    there is an offer of cease fire on the table and it is being tweaked in egypt.:)
     
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