The Palestinians cutting the hand that feed them, again!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ohad, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. imad

    imad Peon

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    #181
    actually, Zionists said something close to this, not us:

    Chaim Weizmann, the first president of Israel, made this Zionist policy very explicit:
    The hopes of Europe’s six million Jews are centered on emigration. I was asked: “Can you bring six million Jews to Palestine?” I replied, “No.” ... From the depths of the tragedy I want to save ... young people [for Palestine]. The old ones will pass. They will bear their fate or they will not. They are dust, economic and moral dust in a cruel world ... Only the branch of the young shall survive. They have to accept it.

    Chaim Weizmann reporting to the Zionist Congress in 1937 on his testimony before the Peel Commission in London, July 1937. Cited in Yahya, p. 55.

    Ben Gurion informed a meeting of Labor Zionists in Great Britain in 1938: "If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative." Ibid., p.149.

    source
     
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  2. Ohad

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    #182
    but every Zionists are Jews, and a lot of them are holocaust survivors, or posterity of holocaust survivors, like me.
     
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  3. imad

    imad Peon

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    #183
    maybe you can help me with this, from what I know, not all Zionists are Jews, and not all Jews are Zionists, I know that Zionism is a political movement, am I right?
     
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  4. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #184
    The Jews are lucky that El Mufti and Hitler didn't win WW2. El Mufti was planning to open concentration camps in Palestine.

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  5. iggysick

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    #185
    And you have proof for that? :rolleyes:
    In which muslim country there was concentration camp during WWII?
    Or can you name at least one muslim country where Jews were exterminated? You know, muslims hate Jews and their only goal is kill them all so I guess you won't have problems to find evidence for that. :rolleyes:
     
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  6. imad

    imad Peon

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    #186
    indeed, they been lucky, living in peace in almost every Arab country while their brothers in Europe suffered mainly from Zionists, who kill every Jew who promote peace, because peace does not exist in their ideology, they did not hesitate to kill anybody who promote peace, even if he was a Jew:

    source
     
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  7. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #187
    whatever is going on now is subject to discussion and if palestanians say something that is not true they should be exposed and when they do suicide bombings and shoots rockets over to israel ia also wrong and it should be stopped


    as far as mufti is concerned maybe israel or the UN should put him on trial if they feel that he is responsible for the death of the jewish people and set the record straight or whatever else that is customery to do in case of war crimes.
    but
    i do not think the sins of father is passed to son so i want to make that point clear. some people even go furthur and try to sugest that we should hold muslems responsible for the actions of their ancestors over a 1000 years ago.this to me is not a valid point and is not a moral position that i can support. let me know what part if any of my comment you disagree with and we can talk about it.
     
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  8. imad

    imad Peon

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    #188
    I know you are talking to browntwn, but I agree with most of what you said, he should get a fair trial if they think he is guilty, but do they dare to do so, they have much to hide themselves..

    not now, cos he has no defenders in west, they speak bad about the man who himself had Jews friends, he was against the Jews migration to Palestine because Zionists made it clear they are coming to take over his country, he was a brave man, he had vision, and he never killed Jews, Zionists HATE it if somebody questioned holocaust, so they can spread such lies about an honorable man like him, and to hide their involvements, and to keep use the holocaust to get sympathy and money to support their project.

    I am with a fair trial even now, 34 years after Haj Amin died, dare you Zionists?
     
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  9. sweetsara

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    #189
    I agree that sins of father is not passed to son, look at Omar Bin Laden, Osama's son, he is a peaceful and normal person.
     
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  10. Ohad

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    #190
    imad, i can't stand your lies.
    "indeed, they been lucky, living in peace in almost every Arab country while their brothers in Europe suffered mainly from Zionists".
    this sentence is one big lie:

    1. they didn't live in peace in Arab countries, you heard about the pogrom in Bagdad in 1941? 179 Jews were murdered, more then 2,000 injured and massive damage was done to Jew property.
    2. mainly suffered from Zionists?!?!?!?!?!?!?! what about the holocaust? what about hundreds of pogroms in Jews before and after the holocaust? Zionists did that?!?!?
    3. there is murders in any society, and the one murder case that you brought, doesn't say anything.
     
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  11. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #191
    Ignore him. It makes some small people feel big to deny the holocaust or blame jews. On DP there is a small group that will sink to any depth to try and implicate jews in every crime while simultaneously trying to exonerate their own governments and religious leaders. Arguing with those fools is a victory for them. They do not even deserve that much.
     
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  12. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #192
    Is it right to jail who is denying holocaust ? is it right to make it illegal denying holocaust ? what about researchers of holocaust ?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #193
    I don't think it would be 'right' to jail someone for denying it, however it is my right not to take those seriously who deny something that so obviously happened. ;)
     
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  14. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #194
    Certainly here on DP you are free to deny the holocaust without fear of jail or even so much as an infraction.

    That does not mean you are not subject to whatever ridicule that denial brings you.
     
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  15. Ohad

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    #195
    someone that deny the holocaust probably never heard lecture of holocaust survivor. as someone that was in many of those - you can't deny the holocaust after that.
    and this is without even looking about the horrible documentations.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #196
    The Jews cooperated with the nazis by standing in lines, waiting for their trains, going in to the camps, lining up to take "showers" or lining up for the firing squad.

    See imad is right, the Jews did cooperate and died.
     
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  17. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #197
    Then why Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal, Romania and Switzerland those countries made Holocaust denial a crime ?

    What happend to universal right to free speech ?
     
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  18. Ohad

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    #198
    You can push the right speech into my A**!

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  19. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #199
    I have no idea, I don't live in any of those countries.

    What is "universal right to free speech"? I have never heard of it. My free speech rights are guaranteed by the US Constitution.

    It seems curious that you are so upset at laws against those who reject the holocaust but I don't see you complaining about laws against people who reject Islam? Why the double standard? Doesn't execution for not believing is Islam seem a little crazy?

     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #200
    Ah the irony...
     
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